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1 Destro  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 7:41:42am
although Adelson is a U.S. citizen, his declared primary allegiance is to Israel.

Sounds like Adelson admits his treason, which is more than most Republicans do.

2 researchok  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 8:59:23am

re: #1 Destro

Treason?

What has Adelson done to harm the US?

Further, how about the many Muslim citizens right here in this country who (unlike the majority of Muslims here)declare there allegiance to Islam first and promise to bring down the US- and often preach that? Where is your outrage? They have been dong that for years.

Or is your outrage selective? Because it certainly seems that way. Know what I mean?

Sure you do

By the way. are sure you are the same Destro you claim to be, right?

3 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 9:24:07am

A lot of Republicans give their primary allegiance to a different country. It's usually the Confederacy rather than Israel though.

4 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 9:43:17am

re: #1 Destro

Sounds like Adelson admits his treason, which is more than most Republicans do.

Destro, "treason" is the kind of hyperbole we normally hear from right-wing nut-jobs. They cheapen and degrade the language of political discourse quite enough without our help. Sleazy influence buying and divided loyalty do not constitute treason. We have to do better, especially against an opponent who shows no regard for facts or logic.

5 researchok  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 9:46:51am

I just emailed a friend and noted: I don't like SA, I don't agree with him but calling him a traitor- based on an opinion piece- is just outrageous.

Never, in all my rants have I ever called anyone a traitor based on what they said or believed.

6 Destro  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 9:59:46am

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel

Destro, "treason" is the kind of hyperbole we normally hear from right-wing nut-jobs. They cheapen and degrade the language of political discourse quite enough without our help. Sleazy influence buying and divided loyalty do not constitute treason. We have to do better, especially against an opponent who shows no regard for facts or logic.

No. If a Chinese American or Russian American said declared primary allegiance is to to those countries and regretted his service in the American military - while using millions earned from scummy casino operations to buy a political condidate what would the opinion be.

The Republicans were able to clal war hero Kerry a traitor for doing patriotic duty to end a wrongful war.

It is just using the Republican mindset against them.

7 Destro  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 10:02:47am

re: #5 researchok

I just emailed a friend and noted: I don't like SA, I don't agree with him but calling him a traitor- based on an opinion piece- is just outrageous.

Never, in all my rants have I ever called anyone a traitor based on what they said or believed.

Ways to Lose Citizenship

Owing Allegiance to Another Country


Another way to lose your U.S. citizenship is to demonstrate your voluntary allegiance to another country. This may take several forms. The most obvious is to become a naturalized citizen of another country with the intent of renouncing U.S. citizenship. You could also lose your citizenship by swearing an oath of allegiance to another country, such as if you are working for the government of a foreign nation. You may also lose your citizenship by voluntarily serving in the military of a foreign country if that country is at war with the United States. Finally, choosing to become an officer in the armed forces of a foreign country is another way to lose your U.S. citizenship.

And this article reportes he wished he served in the Israeli military over the American one.

Adelson once commented that when he did military service as a young man it “unfortunately” was in a U.S. uniform rather than an Israeli one

8 researchok  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 10:17:15am

re: #6 Destro

Sorry, you can't walk that back.

You called Adelson a traitor- and there is no difference if allegiance is to a state or a cause.

Calling for the overthrow of a government is traeson, no matter the cause.

Try again.

By the way, why not clear thiongs up. You said you are the same Destro as the Freeper.

Why not conform that?

9 researchok  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 10:24:10am

re: #7 Destro

More deceit

That is one way to lose citizenship.

Calling for the overthrow of the government by the militia types or other ideological groups is another.

I'm comfortable referring to your deceit now- in clarifying your remarks you insisted the Ethiopian Jews were not recognized as Jews in Israeli Jews and in fact, were being asked to 'reconvert'.

As you know, this is a blatant lie.

The Sephardic Chief Rabbinate declared those Jews to be full Jews and did not require or ask of them to reconvert. That other religious authorities did make that request does not mean the State bof Israel 'required' or 'demanded their conversion'. Somehow, you failed to mention that.

Now you are in an interesting position- you either have to concede that you were wrong, deliberately lied or were uninformed.

Of course, you'll do none of those things.

The dance ought to be entertaining.

10 Destro  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 10:46:23am

re: #9 researchok

I am trying to figure out what Ethiopians have to do with the attempts of a rich union busting casino operator who publically states he cares for another country more so than his own country and regrest his military service to same with threats he will flood the election with $100 million to but a result.

Obama is called a 'traitor' by the right for less. I don't walk back a thing. Adelson is not a patriot and I can call him a traitor using the Republican standard for what a traitor is.

11 Destro  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 10:49:34am

re: #9 researchok

PS: I am more than willing to discuss Ethiopians on a thread devoted to Ethopians.

12 Destro  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 10:50:50am

re: #8 researchok

Sorry, you can't walk that back.

You called Adelson a traitor- and there is no difference if allegiance is to a state or a cause.

Calling for the overthrow of a government is traeson, no matter the cause.

Try again.

By the way, why not clear thiongs up. You said you are the same Destro as the Freeper.

Why not conform that?

How do I conform that? You mean confirm? Yes, I was he. And I was banned long ago.

13 researchok  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:05:07am

re: #10 Destro

Nothoingh to do with Adelson.

Everything to do with you.

And yes, I appreciate your 'confirmation'.

I'll pass it on.

14 researchok  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:07:32am

re: #10 Destro

Your remarks were in response to Adelson's support of Israel.

That in itself does not make him a traitor.

What has he done to endanger the country?

15 Destro  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:19:47am

re: #14 researchok

Your remarks were in response to Adelson's support of Israel.

That in itself does not make him a traitor.

What has he done to endanger the country?

Obama is called a Kenyan traitor by the fact his dad was a Kenyan and an anti-colonialist. Adelson openly said his military service to the USA was "unfortunate" and he would rather be in the service of another country.

By Republican standards of calling someone a traitor - as I wrote above- Adelson is a "traitor". Clearly, Adelson is not an American patriot.

16 Destro  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:20:39am

re: #13 researchok

Nothoingh to do with Adelson.

Everything to do with you.

And yes, I appreciate your 'confirmation'.

I'll pass it on.

Pass it on all you want.

17 Destro  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 11:32:43am

re: #14 researchok

Your remarks were in response to Adelson's support of Israel.

That in itself does not make him a traitor.

What has he done to endanger the country?

Did you read your own post? The article is not about Adelson's "support" for Israel. Heck, I support Israel as I do all democratic nations.

The article you posted said:

...although Adelson is a U.S. citizen, his declared primary allegiance is to Israel.

"Primary allegiance" is a tad more stronger a concept than "support" don't you think?

For example. you pledge allegiance to the American flag, while in contrast you support say the the Red Cross.

18 Bob Levin  Mon, Jul 30, 2012 1:10:45pm

I updinged the post, because I think that Adelson is very misguided (mostly by not sending money to me), and I think that his ego gets in the way of his being a mensch. That big Vegas ego does his talking. This does not help Israel.

Now how is this possible? Realistically, it allows people whose minds are filled with canards [and historically over thousands of years, these canards consistently repeat themselves] to emerge with the canards on their lips, charging either a Jew or Jews with capital crimes. It's a predictable pattern.

And it's happened again. Within hours of the post. Someone calls Adelson a traitor.

19 Destro  Wed, Aug 1, 2012 6:36:35pm

re: #8 researchok

Sorry, you can't walk that back.

You called Adelson a traitor- and there is no difference if allegiance is to a state or a cause.

Calling for the overthrow of a government is traeson, no matter the cause.

Try again.

By the way, why not clear thiongs up. You said you are the same Destro as the Freeper.

Why not conform that?

Find anything yet, chief?


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