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1 Bob Levin  Tue, Jul 31, 2012 7:20:37am

I guess some clarification is in order. 'Collapse of Financial System' is a pretty big term. Does this mean that, worldwide, the money will vanish? Does this mean that the banks have emptied their coffers and will be unable to make any loans, including short-term loans that keep businesses afloat? Does this mean that consumers will no longer have confidence in using money at the store? Does this mean that, Apple Computer, for instance, will begin to make useless products--and the stock falls to zero? Or that the world will experience rapid deflation? Or that one day in August, everyone will be laid off from their jobs?

The bottom line is that governments get to print money. If the money is injected into the system from the bottom--the last bailout was injected into the top--then consumers will be able to square their accounts, and go about their business of expanding demand and investing. This will also get to the top, because the first thing everyone would do is place the money in the bank, thereby refilling the banking coffers. Not coincidentally, governments would be able to raise taxes.

Another issue is that currency is a relative rather than objective value. Currency value is measured by how is compares to other currencies, and is traded as just another commodity. So, I don't think that all the currencies will simultaneously zero out, and the markets will lock their doors. As long as the doors are open, as long as people trade, there is value.

This entire comment is actually a big question.

2 Bob Dillon  Tue, Jul 31, 2012 9:12:42am

re: #1 Bob Levin

Yeppers. No one knows. Some will inflate. Some will hyper-inflate. There is no question that what is and has been happening financially is unsustainable. From individuals to cities to nations. And I want whatever you are smokin' if you truly believe that "If the money is injected into the system from the bottom" has a snowballs chance in hell of becoming reality. Won't work anyway.

Mathematics does not lie. Politicians and Wall Street bankers do.

I've been posting this link for a long time: This Time Is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly
Our county library system has multiple copies. Check yours out.

Eight hundred years worth of data and history verified and validated. The patterns are the same. Today is no different except we are using computers. (To err is human. To really f*ck things up we need computers.)

2008 was just warm-ups.

3 researchok  Tue, Jul 31, 2012 9:50:12am

re: #2 Bob Dillon

Never mind- spend more.
//

4 Bob Levin  Tue, Jul 31, 2012 10:14:38am

re: #2 Bob Dillon

That was another part of the long question. Are there any politicians who would consider injecting the money into the rank and file sector? I'm pretty sure everyone in the rank and file sector would go along with this.

I also question whether the conventional definition of inflation is even relevant anymore--since part of that definition has this concept of 'too few goods'. I think those days are gone in the US, having too few goods.

5 Bob Levin  Tue, Jul 31, 2012 10:27:08am

re: #2 Bob Dillon

Regarding the phrase This Time is Different--

Here's this.

And this.


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