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1 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 7:15:38am

They obviously based the cartoon on old anti-Semitic caricatures of the past. It's hard to say if the anti-Jewish sentiment is still there, although it probably is for all the hardcore Jew haters who believe that bogus stereotype that Jews "control all the banks"

2 Bob Levin  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 8:35:09am
“Strache [himself] is all the proof anyone needs to see that he has not given up his anti- Semitic beliefs,” said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. Foxmann added that

Evidently, there is a history there, which adds a great deal to the meaning.

“now, he’s promoting the anti- Semitic canard that Jews control international finance and manipulate governments to enrich themselves at the expense of non-Jews. Strache brings shame to Austrian politics and should be repudiated for his anti-Jewish bigotry.”

Gee, haven't heard this canard (with a slight half-twist)--for a few days.

I wonder how they determine that…

It really gets down to subtext, and the ability to hear subtext. Unfortunately, it's not a skill that is emphasized because it's hard to prove your interpretation is objective. I'll go farther--you can't prove it. But like jazz, it's possible to hear the melody (subtext) in the solos, even the drum solos.

With practice, you become more sure of what you are hearing. Charlie Parker once said that (paraphrase) you see with your ears and hear with your eyes.

Another thing: Are only anti-Semitic images potentially illegal in Europe? I assume this has to do with the the Holocaust & Europe’s history of anti-Semitism as well as differences in free speech laws, but it still strikes me as a bit odd. The Romani people as well as other non-Jewish groups) were also victims of the genocide—are there laws against anti-Roma cartoons? I’ve never heard of any.

History, it's been a non-stop drumbeat for thousands of years. The Protocols is essentially a footnote citing that long history. So there isn't a literal list of Protocols, rather it's the entire history, the twisted cause and effect that accompanies them. For instance, there is a clause in the Magna Carta that absolves everyone of paying back loans to Jews. This transforms antisemitism into an institution.

3 Destro  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 8:55:34am

Europe, especially the former Axis nations but in many European nations have laws that ban racist or hate advocating material - sometimes it is an across the board ban on all types of hate speech other times on specific kinds of hate speech. Depending on the European country. Canada has this kind of law as well.

I support these laws.

4 CuriousLurker  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 3:21:09pm

re: #2 Bob Levin

For instance, there is a clause in the Magna Carta that absolves everyone of paying back loans to Jews. This transforms antisemitism into an institution.

THIS helps it make sense. Thanks.

5 Bob Levin  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 5:00:48pm

re: #4 CuriousLurker

Could you hear the melody in the drum solo?

Someone sent me a picture of a Simpson's cell--

KJAZZ (radio station): 152 Americans Can't be Wrong.

If I don't laugh, then crying is the only remaining option.


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