Pages

9 comments

Jump to bottom
1 researchok  Tue, Aug 28, 2012 2:21:12pm

People will stick to a diet when they are spending their own money.

That said, very few people- even dieters- will turn down free cupcakes and the opportunity for more free cupcakes.

This is not an opinion.

There are very few Democrats and Republicans who put their money where their mouth is and reject Congressional pork.

2 Four More Tears  Tue, Aug 28, 2012 2:24:02pm

re: #1 researchok

People will stick to a diet when they are spending their own money.

That said, very few people- even dieters- will turn down free cupcakes and the opportunity for more free cupcakes.

This is not an opinion.

There are very few Democrats and Republicans who put their money where their mouth is and reject Congressional pork.

Uh huh. It does detract from the "I Built This" narrative, does it not?

3 researchok  Tue, Aug 28, 2012 2:36:42pm

re: #2 Mocking Jay

That's somewhat of an apples and oranges argument, though admittedly, at best the discussion is and always will be, murky.

I'm of two opinions- one, the guy who built the business built the business.

The roads and infrastructure were there long before he was on his own and in fact, he helped pay for it via his- and everybody else who paid taxes.

The infrastructure was not built for the entrepreneur only- it was in fact built for the benefit of the citizens, mostly. It's nice to have roads to go to store so we can have a cornucopia of products to choose from.

Infrastructure provides equal opportunity- not equal outcome.

4 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 28, 2012 4:46:23pm

re: #3 researchok

Infrastructure provides equal opportunity- not equal outcome.

But it doesn't, obviously, since:

A) Infrastructure is not equal everywhere
B) Infrastructure benefits those with the capital to use the infrastructure more than it benefits those without it and
C) Even if all infrastructure everywhere was equal, it doesn't provide equal opportunity; some businesses make greater or lesser use of it.

5 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 28, 2012 9:33:32pm

So, the GOP has another hypocritical candidate who thinks they built everything themselves. Shocker.

6 Curt  Wed, Aug 29, 2012 4:11:15am

re: #5 HappyWarrior

So, the GOP has another hypocritical candidate who thinks they built everything themselves. Shocker.

So there should be a test of how you vote to use a government program?

The more realistic look at this is as researchok mentions: It's taxpayer money. Government is merely the project manager of things the voters ask to make available. It is not money generated from government, but money the taxpayers allow the government to acquire via the tax code.

At the end of the argument, the President's famous comment wasn't right: The taxpayers built the things for the taxpayers to use, with a layer of "middle management" called government workers facilitating that.

Sure would be nice to acknowledge the taxpayer as the source, because, take them out of the equation and the government has not one penny to spend.

7 Charleston Chew  Wed, Aug 29, 2012 4:27:34am

re: #3 researchok

That's somewhat of an apples and oranges argument, though admittedly, at best the discussion is and always will be, murky.

I'm of two opinions- one, the guy who built the business built the business.

The roads and infrastructure were there long before he was on his own and in fact, he helped pay for it via his- and everybody else who paid taxes.

The infrastructure was not built for the entrepreneur only- it was in fact built for the benefit of the citizens, mostly. It's nice to have roads to go to store so we can have a cornucopia of products to choose from.

Infrastructure provides equal opportunity- not equal outcome.

Imagine a conservative in a boat with someone else. The conservative says, "This half of the boat is mine. That half is yours."

The other person says, "But my half has a hole in it and we're taking on water."

The conservative says, "You mean you're taking on water. My half doesn't have a hole."

"Can't you at least give me that cork to stop up the hole?"

"This is my cork. I worked hard for this cork. Get your own damn cork!"

The boat fills with water. They both drown.

8 Curt  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 5:20:52am

re: #7 Charleston Chew

Imagine a conservative in a boat with someone else. The conservative says, "This half of the boat is mine. That half is yours."

The other person says, "But my half has a hole in it and we're taking on water."

The conservative says, "You mean you're taking on water. My half doesn't have a hole."

"Can't you at least give me that cork to stop up the hole?"

"This is my cork. I worked hard for this cork. Get your own damn cork!"

The boat fills with water. They both drown.

In an absolutist view of the discussion at hand, that would be the case, but it's not. The premise of the post is Republicans talk about using Government money to build business, but they shouldn't take the money, because they disagree with the President's statement that Government built businesses.

Your comment assumes Republicans, in order to hopefully put the Democrat's panties in a wad, would get into the White House and Senate and immediately cut all all Government funding for any program that supports building business. You know that's not the case.

Bogey men and scary shadows....can we grow up and have a dialogue?

9 Decatur Deb  Thu, Aug 30, 2012 5:35:47am

re: #8 Curt

In an absolutist view of the discussion at hand, that would be the case, but it's not. The premise of the post is Republicans talk about using Government money to build business, but they shouldn't take the money, because they disagree with the President's statement that Government built businesses.

Your comment assumes Republicans, in order to hopefully put the Democrat's panties in a wad, would get into the White House and Senate and immediately cut all all Government funding for any program that supports building business. You know that's not the case.

Bogey men and scary shadows....can we grow up and have a dialogue?

So we're supposed to place our confidence in the fact that the TPGOP is lying to the country about its governing philosophy?


This page has been archived.
Comments are closed.

^ back to top ^

TwitterFacebook

Turn off all ads for a full year by subscribing!
Take advantage of our yearly subscription, and save 50% off the normal subscription price! One-year ad-free subscriptions are just $59.95. Turn off all ads for a full year by subscribing now and save!
Read more...

► LGF Headlines

  • Loading...

► Tweeted Articles

  • Loading...

► Tweeted Pages

  • Loading...

► Top 10 Comments

  • Loading...

► Bottom Comments

  • Loading...

► Recent Comments

  • Loading...

► Tools/Info

► Tag Cloud

► Contact

You must have Javascript enabled to use the contact form.
Your email:

Subject:

Message:


Messages may be published unless you request otherwise.
Tech Note:
Using the Contact Form
LGF Pages

This button leads to the main index of LGF Pages, our user-submitted articles. You can post your own LGF Pages simply by registering a free account with us.

Create a Page

This is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.

Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.

Last updated: 2015-02-13 1:58 pm PST

LGF User's Guide
Recent Pages
aagcobb
Scott Walker Compares Unions to ISIS.
Alec MacGillis, Slate: Scott Walker Compares Unions to ISIS. Scott Walker can't see Russia from his house, so how does he show he's prepared to be the leader of the free world? Walker sought to address this gap Thursday evening ...

27 minutes ago
Views: 28 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 0
Great White Snark
Jeb Bush Hopes to Change Some Minds
Will a moderate republican with a widely scorned surname have a ghost of a chance? Stay tuned. "You give him credit for facing his critics and getting out of the bubble of fundraisers and policy speeches," said Kellyanne Conway, who ...

35 minutes ago
Views: 37 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 0
Thanos
Robert Plant and the Sensational Space Shifters - Turn It Up
Robert Plant and the Space Shifters perform Turn it Up live at the Roundhouse in London for the 2014 iTunes Festival Website: robertplant.comTwitter: twitter.comFacebook: facebook.comInstagram: RobertPlantOfficial

2 hours, 12 minutes ago
Views: 70 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 1 • Rating: 0
ಠ_ಠ
Edward Snowden, Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras doing a Reddit AMA
Earlier today interested Redditors posed questions to Poitras and Greenwald in Los Angeles, while Snowden posted from Moscow. A rare opportunity for average people to directly communicate with the (in)famous leaker.See the entire discussion HERE Redditor masondog13 asks: What's the ...

3 days, 1 hour ago
Views: 412 • Comments: 2
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 3
Rocky-in-Connecticut
Muslims Join Hands At Oslo’s Largest Synagogue
Wait a minute... watching Fox News and the Republican talking heads I learned that all Muslims are bad bad bad and in no way can Islam be interpreted as any sort of peaceful religion. news.yahoo.com OSLO (Reuters) - More than ...

5 days, 6 hours ago
Views: 671 • Comments: 2
Tweets: 6 • Rating: 5
BadExampleMan
Help Tel Aviv Roller Derby move forward!
For the last three years it's been my privilege to help coach a dedicated group of young women who have founded the first Women's Flat-Track Roller Derby league in Israel. They've learned, trained, fought, and worked unbelievably hard to bring ...

6 days, 8 hours ago
Views: 537 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 1
FemNaziBitch
link-#Domestic Violence, Mass Shootings, and Violent Crime
A recent study found that more than half of the 110 mass shootings in the United States between January 2009 and July 2014 included the murder of a current or former spouse, an intimate partner or a family member. ...

1 week, 1 day ago
Views: 664 • Comments: 2
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 3
Lumberhead
No Escape From History
It has been enlightening to watch this entire spectacle play out over the past week. It has indeed. Remarkably, comments that acknowledge verifiable history are treated as controversial. Meanwhile the complete denial of this history, both recent and long ...

2 weeks, 2 days ago
Views: 1,150 • Comments: 1
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 5
Jayleia
Double Standards in Action
On January 29, 2015, the guy on the LEFT checked into a hotel with a corporate check in hand and is told they don't accept checks. After telling him in order to not be charged for the stay they ...

2 weeks, 6 days ago
Views: 1,410 • Comments: 1
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 3
 Frank says:

Stupidity has a certain charm -- ignorance does not.