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1 CuriousLurker  Mon, Sep 3, 2012 5:41:17pm

Excellent! Thank you.

2 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 3, 2012 5:58:03pm
Learn how to think, not what to think.

There you have it. Also known as "critical thinking." Which the Texas GOP platform wants to outlaw.

3 researchok  Mon, Sep 3, 2012 6:09:11pm

Now if we could only get to the point where everyone can participate in this kind of conversation...

Lots of good stuff here.

TY

4 wrenchwench  Mon, Sep 3, 2012 6:45:10pm

re: #1 CuriousLurker

Excellent! Thank you.

You are welcome.

Thank you for hanging around this beehive.

5 Bob Dillon  Mon, Sep 3, 2012 11:05:39pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

"Muhammad was referring to the metaphysical proof for God’s existence, first formulated by the Muslim philosopher Avicenna in the 11th century:"

First?

Outside of Western thought

Existence in absolute truth is central to Vedanta epistemology. Traditional sense perception based approaches were put into question as possibly misleading due to preconceived or superimposed ideas. But though all object-cognition can be doubted, the existence of the doubter remains a fact even in nastika traditions of mayavada schools following Adi Shankara.[16] The five eternal principles to be discussed under ontology, beginning with God or Isvara, the Ultimate Reality, cannot be established by the means of logic alone, and often require superior proof.[17] In Vaisnavism Vishnu, or his intimate ontological form of Krishna, is equated to personal absolute God of the Western traditions. Aspects of Krishna as svayam bhagavan in original Absolute Truth, sat chit ananda, are understood originating from three essential attributes of Krishna's form, i.e., "eternal existence" or sat, related to the brahman aspect; "knowledge" or chit, to the paramatman; and "bliss" or ananda in Sanskrit, to bhagavan.[18]


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