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1 Destro  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 9:09:42am
The FBI said the public was never in danger.

More fake terror plots busted that were created by the FBI to entrap basically homeless people. The FBI carries out more terror plots than al-Qaeda.

2 Locker  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 10:34:01am

re: #1 Destro

More fake terror plots busted that were created by the FBI to entrap basically homeless people. The FBI carries out more terror plots than al-Qaeda.

Sorry no. You can't "entrap" people to buy C-4. It's not like these guys were just at the Circle K for some beer and a guy in the alley happen to have some C-4.

Normally, we buy some beer and some cigarettes and then go can collecting. We didn't plan on blowing up anything but there was this guy with C-4 for sale so we really couldn't help ourselves.

Veto.

3 Destro  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 11:50:32am

re: #2 Locker

[Link: anarchistnews.org...]

The Case of the Cleveland 5: The FBI, Entrapment & the construction of Terrorists

[Link: www.cleveland4solidarity.org...]

The Cleveland 4 are four Occupy Cleveland activists, Brandon, Connor, Doug and Joshua. They were arrested on May first, accused of plotting a series of bombings, including an area bridge. However, the real story is that the FBI, working with an informant, created the scheme and coerced these four into participating, along with a fifth man, Tony, who took a plea deal in July. On September 5th, Connor, Doug and Brandon pled guilty to all charges, but not to the government's terrorism enhancement. Their sentencing hearing will occur on November 5th and 6th. They continue to fight against the government's attempt to brand them as terrorists, and to expose the techniques of entrapment employed by the FBI and their informant. Please help them in their struggle.

4 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 12:01:39pm

re: #3 Destro

So the website set up to demand that they be freed says they didn't do it?

I'm going to take more convincing than that.

5 Locker  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 12:34:11pm

re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist

Obviously he trusts that site and the anarchistnews more than the Southern Poverty Law Center AND the defendant's own words:

“Honestly, the intent was to bring the bridge down,” Baxter told FBI agents, according to one government document. “I didn’t think there was enough (C-4) to do it. I just wanted to have it shut down for a few days. Stop, uh, flow of money for a few days from that area.”

The plotters intended to use a mobile phone to detonate two four-pound boxes of C-4 – a military-grade explosive – that were placed at the base of the Route 82 bridge crossing the Cuyahoga Valley National Park, south of downtown Cleveland.

The anarchists initially discussed using smoke grenades to distract law enforcement while co-conspirators would use explosives to topple signs atop high-rise financial institutions in downtown Cleveland. They also discussed bombing a Ku Klux Klan gathering spot or a Federal Reserve Bank.

The defendants apparently formed the Revolutionary People’s Party after they grew disappointed with the lack of action by people in the Occupy Movement, with whom they had been affiliated.

“I’ve been working with Occupy and it’s like I can’t even get them to do anything that would upset people,” Baxter told FBI agents, according to court documents. Those he met in the Occupy Movement, Baxter said, wouldn’t “disrupt traffic … do anything illegal. A lot of laws are, are ridiculous. Can’t even get people to jay walk half the time in a march, or take the march off the sidewalk into the street. It’s like, ridiculous.”

6 Locker  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 12:38:57pm

Destro I have a question. Do you think/feel/suspect the U.S. Government planned and executed the 9/11 attacks? Serious question about your thoughts and/or position.

7 Destro  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:39:18pm

re: #6 Locker

Destro I have a question. Do you think/feel/suspect the U.S. Government planned and executed the 9/11 attacks? Serious question about your thoughts and/or position.

No, I am not a 9-11 truther. Read the Rolling Stone article on this:

How FBI Entrapment Is Inventing 'Terrorists' - and Letting Bad Guys Off the Hook

Read more: [Link: www.rollingstone.com...]

8 Destro  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 3:41:07pm

re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist

OK, you want mainstream sources?

How FBI Entrapment Is Inventing 'Terrorists' - and Letting Bad Guys Off the Hook

Read more: [Link: www.rollingstone.com...]

9 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:04:41pm

re: #7 Destro

No, I am not a 9-11 truther. Read the Rolling Stone article on this:

How FBI Entrapment Is Inventing 'Terrorists' - and Letting Bad Guys Off the Hook

Read more: [Link: www.rollingstone.com...]

Better source, yes. You could definitely argue entrapment, and I suppose their lawyer will, but I'm not buying the notion that they were harmless souls, pressured into this by the big bad Feds. See Locker's above--they're pretty blunt about what the plan was.

10 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:05:15pm

And yes, mainstream sources are better evidence for arguments than fan websites for the accused.

11 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 4:48:18pm

I don't think that coming up with shit like this is the FBI's best use of time and anti-terrorism resources, but if someone is willing to go through with it, without coercion-- just by making the opportunity available, that's still really bad for them.

12 Destro  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:07:58pm

re: #11 Obdicut

I don't think that coming up with shit like this is the FBI's best use of time and anti-terrorism resources

We agree.

13 Destro  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:10:30pm

re: #10 SanFranciscoZionist

And yes, mainstream sources are better evidence for arguments than fan websites for the accused.

I am an info junkie. I read a 100 articles a day. I never post an opinion - controversial as it may be - that I can't back up but it takes me a second or two to source it.

14 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 5:45:46pm

re: #12 Destro

We agree.

But we disagree that this was a fake terror plot. It was a real one, unless evidence comes out that the FBI guy had to egg them along and incite them to do stuff. It really doesn't seem that way, since they specifically broke away from Occupy because they wanted to break laws.

15 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 8, 2012 8:48:58pm

re: #14 Obdicut

But we disagree that this was a fake terror plot. It was a real one, unless evidence comes out that the FBI guy had to egg them along and incite them to do stuff. It really doesn't seem that way, since they specifically broke away from Occupy because they wanted to break laws.

Sadly, almost any attempted mass political movement will have some people who will want to use violence to force its agenda through. Usually these are young rootless men who want to be seen (even if only to each other) as bold risk takers or who just want to hurt the object of the movement's ire. These guys set out to break the law and hurt people and if it had not been this plot they would have done something else. They wanted to do wrong and will now pay the price for the violent-minded disaffection.


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