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1 Obdicut  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 5:30:04am

I would fucking hate to be famous.

2 Charleston Chew  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 6:51:12am

re: #1 Obdicut

Billions of people have somehow managed to avoid this affliction. The unlucky few who caught it were probably engaged in risky behavior that increased their chances.

3 Joanne  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 7:03:30am

Spot on.

Add to that the female judge in AZ who told a woman who had been molested that it was a learning experience, one she wouldn't have had the benefit of experiencing had she been a good girl and not a trampy, tramp for having the temerity of going to, gasp!, a BAR! and our regression to the 1950s is near completion.

I certainly hope young women are paying attention to current events, beyond KStew and her of late tumultuous relationship, because this impacts their future and what avenues will and will not be available to them.

It's sickening to watch. As a 53 year old woman, it's déjà vu all over again. And it's far from pleasant. It's terrifying. What's next? Acid in our faces for wanting an education beyond a Mrs. degree?

4 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 9:14:27am

The fact that she has been so brutally punished while her married paramour has escaped is awful.

Double your standards, double your fun.

5 JamesWI  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 10:28:55am

re: #4 Mostly sane, most of the time.

The fact that she has been so brutally punished while her married paramour has escaped is awful.

Double your standards, double your fun.

This is the only problem I have with the whole thing. I'm usually not a "slut-shaming" sort of guy.....but when you are a celebrity who is supposedly engaged, and you know you have paparazzi following you constantly....and you engage in very public sex acts right in front of said paparazzi with a married dude.....you know, you probably should be ashamed.

But the dude basically getting away scot-free makes it messed up.

6 Joanne  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 11:23:44am

re: #5 JamesWI

Except neither she nor Pattinson have ever once confirmed that they even had a relationship - not once, not ever - its only been speculation until, after this 'scandal' broke and she, for the first time both acknowledged the relationship and apologized (both of which are out of character for this very private girl). There was no engagement but for in the minds pages, and screens of tabloids.

I could care less about their relationship, but the double standard burns. Worse even, both Stewart and the director admitted to this and said they did nothing more than play kissy-face. And that, if true, which, for whatever reason I believe, makes this slut-shaming all the more worse.

And yes, this crap is my guilty pleasure. I know these celebs by name because I read dumb mags on airplanes. I've actually even seen KStew's films, which is something I can say about very few celebs in the tabloids. And for this kid I feel sorry because she usually is so private and not a typical talentless famewhore.

7 JamesWI  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 11:55:52am

re: #6 Joanne (JustJay)

They never "officially confirmed" they were in a relationship, but it was quite obvious and common knowledge, mostly due to the paparazzi.

Worse even, both Stewart and the director admitted to this and said they did nothing more than play kissy-face.

Just looking at the pictures, it looks a little more serious than "play kissy-face." At a minimum, serious making out, and the pictures make it look like it certainly went further than that. Also, while she says it was a one time thing, many others, including the director's brother-in-law (that is, his wife's brother) say it was going on for months, starting back when they were filming the movie.

So again, the double standard is completely unfair bullshit. The director deserves to be shamed as much as Stewart. But I think the backlash to the slut-shaming is making it seem like there shouldn't really be any shame, when I think there clearly should be plenty of shame .....just for both sides, not just one.

8 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:13:07pm

re: #7 JamesWI

So again, the double standard is completely unfair bullshit. The director deserves to be shamed as much as Stewart. But I think the backlash to the slut-shaming is making it seem like there shouldn't really be any shame, when I think there clearly should be plenty of shame .....just for both sides, not just one.

From their family and friends, maybe. From me...why should I even know or care? Maybe it was better when Hollywood presented perfect images of stars, and you never knew who was gay or cheating or whatever. They're products, not people, to us film-goers, and what they really do in private is none of ours.

I think Stewart is getting it in the teeth because of the pathological cult around Twilight. She's not Kristen Stewart, she's Bella, the author/reader insert from hell. She's not making out with someone who's not her boyfriend, she's cheating on Edward. This pair of twenty-something film actors have had this imaginary 'perfect' (actually deeply screwed up) relationship projected onto them, and the only thing they could do to appease the insane fans is to get married, drink blood, and have an adorable little girl together, because that's what the movie characters do.

(Pattinson apparently despises his character to the depth of his soul. It's been suggested that he does the part well because Edward's self-loathing seems awfully realistic when played by an actor who thinks the guy he's playing is scum.)

((Pattinson was such a handsome boy in Harry Potter. I'd like to see him again in a part where he isn't covered with white pancake makeup. It doesn't make him look sexy, it just makes him look dead. Which is actually not as sexy as Twilight wants it to be. Thank God for Taylor Lautner.))

9 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 3:29:19pm

re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist

From their family and friends, maybe. From me...why should I even know or care? Maybe it was better when Hollywood presented perfect images of stars, and you never knew who was gay or cheating or whatever. They're products, not people, to us film-goers, and what they really do in private is none of ours.

I think Stewart is getting it in the teeth because of the pathological cult around Twilight. She's not Kristen Stewart, she's Bella, the author/reader insert from hell. She's not making out with someone who's not her boyfriend, she's cheating on Edward. This pair of twenty-something film actors have had this imaginary 'perfect' (actually deeply screwed up) relationship projected onto them, and the only thing they could do to appease the insane fans is to get married, drink blood, and have an adorable little girl together, because that's what the movie characters do.

(Pattinson apparently despises his character to the depth of his soul. It's been suggested that he does the part well because Edward's self-loathing seems awfully realistic when played by an actor who thinks the guy he's playing is scum.)

((Pattinson was such a handsome boy in Harry Potter. I'd like to see him again in a part where he isn't covered with white pancake makeup. It doesn't make him look sexy, it just makes him look dead. Which is actually not as sexy as Twilight wants it to be. Thank God for Taylor Lautner.))

As always, SFZ, your analysis is spot on. Though I will point out that Taylor Lautner is so wooden that he makes Al Gore seem animated.

I'm also going to say that the director is getting punished pretty hard (his wife hasn't spoken to him since the scandal broke), though not in public. I'd prefer he get slammed hard in the tabloids as well.

And while I appreciate those who have spoken on Kristen Stewart's behalf, I do think a distinction needs to be drawn between her and the attacks on Sandra Fluke. Fluke didn't do anything wrong by speaking before those Congressional Democrats, while Stewart did do wrong by having a romantic relationship with a married man. That is wrong, but she should be given a chance to redeem herself.


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