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1 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 11:52:43am

Because realistically, ain't a damn thing we can do about it.

In real life, the world's ability to make other nations straighten up and fly right about human rights issues is vanishingly limited. We don't hassle Iran, we don't hassle China.

Africa has basically been through World War Three, and except for a little handwringing over Rwanda and Darfur, the world shrugged and kicked back. Syria is in the middle of...this mess...and well, the UN is asking for money for the refugees, and appointing envoys.

2 researchok  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 12:27:16pm

re: #1 SanFranciscoZionist

Because realistically, ain't a damn thing we can do about it.

In real life, the world's ability to make other nations straighten up and fly right about human rights issues is vanishingly limited. We don't hassle Iran, we don't hassle China.

I'd one more thing- Iran and the other nations mentioned don't give a damn about what the world has to say. They have one goal and one goal only- to preserve the status quo by any and all means possible.

When nations or groups that are that are led by or are under the influence of dysfunctional leaders, tyrants or dictators, attempt to justify their actions, we can rightly assume that justification is false. Tyrants and dictators do not make moral choices, because moral choices can only lead to the demise of the dysfunction or tyranny.

Anyone that comes to the defense of dysfunctional, immoral leaders or groups or tyrannical regimes and their leaders, have themselves made a conscious choice to defend and stand by what is immoral. They themselves consciously adopt an immoral posture

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3 Destro  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 3:32:55pm

Who knew? When wil pass crippling sanctions on Iran? Oh wait.....

4 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 3:40:58pm

re: #3 Destro

Destro, that post is trolling. You've criticized researchok for doing that, so now I'm going to tell you that you're doing that. If you've got a point, make it.

5 Destro  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 3:44:48pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon
I made the point using humor. To suggest Iran's human rights abuses are ignored is nonsense since they have had crippling sanctions since 1979.

6 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 3:47:14pm

re: #5 Destro

I made the point using humor. To suggest Iran's human rights abuses are ignored is nonsense since they have had crippling sanctions since 1979.

It did not strike me as humor. It struck me as uncalled for mockery.

7 Destro  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 4:03:21pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Actually it was sarcasm. Right wingers tend to be poor at humor and nuances.

8 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 4:09:41pm

re: #5 Destro

I made the point using humor. To suggest Iran's human rights abuses are ignored is nonsense since they have had crippling sanctions since 1979.

Fair point, but not over human rights abuses, I would argue. We care about how Iran deals with the West and our allies, not what they do internally.

9 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 4:09:58pm

re: #7 Destro

Actually it was sarcasm. Right wingers tend to be poor at humor and nuances.

Oh Lord, you are not the person to...

Nevermind.

10 Destro  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 5:35:08pm

re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist

Fair point, but not over human rights abuses, I would argue. We care about how Iran deals with the West and our allies, not what they do internally.

Really?

Obama Issues New Sanctions on Human-Rights Abuses in Iran and Syria

[Link: www.nationaljournal.com...]

11 Destro  Sun, Sep 9, 2012 5:35:53pm

re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh Lord, you are not the person to...

Nevermind.

I agree the concept of 'lord' is pretty funny.


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