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1 researchok  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:32:54pm

Blame the victim.

Nice.

Not unexpected though.

2 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:36:20pm

re: #1 researchok

If that is what you get from the Hindu's editorial, then I feel pity for you.

3 researchok  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:38:21pm

re: #2 Destro

Well Liar, it appears you want to play.

Just so we're clear- right?

4 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:39:07pm

re: #3 researchok

I try not to play with trolls.

5 researchok  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:39:59pm

Well, you responded

OK by me.

Your choice.

6 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:45:00pm

re: #5 researchok

I am sorry you are unaware of The Hindu newspaper and the weight it's editorials have. Try reading non-American English newspaper sources from other democratic countries that have a third view and neutral perspective. If I help in exposing Americans to other opinions outside of the Anglo-American bubble, so much the better. I find India's English news sources to be best at this since they are not invested in the Anglo-American world view and thus can see a story from a unique perspective.

7 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:48:59pm

re: #6 Destro

I am sorry you are unaware of The Hindu newspaper and the weight it's editorials have. Try reading non-American English newspaper sources from other democratic countries that have a third view and neutral perspective. If I help in exposing Americans to other opinions outside of the Anglo-American bubble, so much the better.

You know, you should try to get your self-esteem up a little. Don't auomatically assume that everyone else is so much better educated and more cosmopolitan than you are!

8 researchok  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:51:50pm

re: #6 Destro

I'm going to write a blog post just for you.

As it turns out, you are indeed very special.

And thank you for responding.

9 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 12:56:55pm

re: #7 SanFranciscoZionist

You know the Hindu is pretty much the gold standard in Indian newspapers and their editorial page is written from actually a very Indian conservative point of view. It is not a communist newspaper nor a fire brand publication. It is very much rooted in the Anglo-Indian tradition of newspapers.

But all researchok got from it is "it blames the victim" when what it says is deeper than that, so I called him out on it. And I call out your know-nothingness tendencies also.

Or maybe he was trolling me. That's his problem. Don't bother me none.

Sorry, I read 'foreign' news sources...and like it.

10 researchok  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 1:05:54pm

He reached bottom and asked for aq shovel.

11 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 1:14:11pm

I read foreign"neutral *cough* sources too. Outside our bubble-Yes that is correct. But most fail to mention these sources have their own agenda, or bubble. The mid east is a veritable treasure trove of truthers. Millions of them, far more than here.

Funny how it's nearly always the fault of the west. For supporting a despot. Then not supporting him. Then for helping remove said despot. Then for not helping enough or helping too much.

Then it's all about this hopelessly obscure horrible movie that the US government had nothing to do with. A movie that the government is forbidden to stop because we have this heathen free speech thing. Not American policy. not 9/11 anniversary or AQ.

Welcome to the most easily cited scapegoat in the known universe, These United States Of America. it's not about violence, militant Islam, bad governence, or awful domestic policies in other countries. Nope, it's all about mus here in the 50 states.

12 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 1:17:05pm

re: #11 Daniel Ballard

The mid east is a veritable treasure trove of truthers. Millions of them, far more than here.

The Hindu newspaper from India is not from the Middle East. See Google Maps. Why did you bring up the Middle East and their opinions in relations to an editorial written by India's Hindu newspaper?

13 Bob Levin  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 1:34:17pm

re: #4 Destro

It's not exactly trolling. It's closer to supervision.

14 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 1:42:01pm

re: #13 Bob Levin

I am used to jack booted thugs watching me.

15 Bob Levin  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 1:43:56pm

re: #14 Destro

So are we.

16 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 2:09:22pm

re: #15 Bob Levin

So are we.

You lived your whole life as part of the mainstream American establishment. Don't make me laugh at how persecuted you feel you have been in America. You are just a cog in the oppressive machine you support. Nothing funnier than American middle class whites who claim they are oppressed minorities.

17 researchok  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 2:23:47pm

re: #15 Bob Levin

Apparently, anyone smarter and more educated than he is a 'jack booted thug'.

A therapists dream- long term job security

18 Bob Levin  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 3:12:43pm

re: #16 Destro

Don't make me laugh at how persecuted you feel you have been in America.

Oops. My mistake. I was hoping you would take that personally. You're the one with the belief in Global American/Israeli persecution. Haven't you been reading your own comments?

Nothing funnier than American middle class whites who claim they are oppressed minorities.

Well, let's put it this way. If I'm walking down the street by myself, and there are four of you, I know the score. If I owned a business with a plate glass window, and there are four of you, I know the score. And you need four because simply three will not make the cowardice disappear.

19 palomino  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 3:54:29pm

re: #18 Bob Levin

Oops. My mistake. I was hoping you would take that personally. You're the one with the belief in Global American/Israeli persecution. Haven't you been reading your own comments?

Well, let's put it this way. If I'm walking down the street by myself, and there are four of you, I know the score. If I owned a business with a plate glass window, and there are four of you, I know the score. And you need four because simply three will not make the cowardice disappear.

Huh?

20 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 4:04:49pm

re: #17 researchok
Says the guy who admits that raeders of his blog don't want to hear his opinions. There is a reason they don't want to read what you write and why you hunt down what I write.

21 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 4:06:58pm

re: #18 Bob Levin

Like I wrote before you have paranoid persecution fantasies.

22 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 4:07:17pm

re: #16 Destro

You lived your whole life as part of the mainstream American establishment. Don't make me laugh at how persecuted you feel you have been in America. You are just a cog in the oppressive machine you support. Nothing funnier than American middle class whites who claim they are oppressed minorities.

Internet Psychic Network!

23 researchok  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 4:46:49pm

re: #20 Destro

Lots of people read my blog.

And I do write- though quite frankly, I'm sure you wouldn't quite understand.

And most of what you write are lies.

Poor baby- are you feeling oppressed?

24 researchok  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 4:48:01pm

re: #21 Destro

LOLOLOL

This coming from the guy who talks about jack booted thugs who are after him.

Talk about projection

25 EiMitch  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 6:01:23pm

This is why I love/hate you Destro. You talk about how us americans are narrow-minded or something. And then proclaim that if we don't see things your way, that further proves that we're closed-minded. And you're painfully oblivious to the irony.

26 Bob Levin  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 6:12:01pm

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27 Bob Levin  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 6:21:18pm

re: #25 EiMitch

This is D's comment on Sept 7, from a post entitled 'Hitler on the Campaign Trail.'

The phrase was also used in a report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile:

His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.

Which kind of sounds like the modern Republican way of thinking.

And now you have 'oblivious' defined to new depths.

28 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 7:52:08pm

re: #25 EiMitch

This is why I love/hate you Destro. You talk about how us americans are narrow-minded or something. And then proclaim that if we don't see things your way, that further proves that we're closed-minded. And you're painfully oblivious to the irony.

Yea, because you spend all this time attacking the messenger but not the message. Here is the Hindu's editorial and it's clear condemnation of America's military interventionism. But like I wrote before, Americans don't want to understand what 'blowback' means and how it comes about. From arming jihadis in Afghanistan (something India has suffered from via Pakistan and the CIA's links) to 9/11 and on and on.

29 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 7:54:10pm

re: #27 Bob Levin

That's right, I call the current Republicans Nazi like, Godwin's law and all. So what?

30 Bob Levin  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 7:57:27pm

re: #29 Destro

So you really don't see that those 'primary rules' are exactly how you conduct your discussions here? Really?

31 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 7:58:48pm

re: #24 researchok

I have seen my share of protests and tear gassings. It's a European right of passage.

32 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 8:01:36pm

re: #30 Bob Levin

So you really don't see that those 'primary rules' are exactly how you conduct your discussions here? Really?

Say's you who calls everyone a Nazi and thinks they read the Protocols of Zion for inspiration? I said what I said tongue in cheek though I do think the GOP are more Gen. Franco than Hitler.

33 Bob Levin  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 8:06:43pm

re: #32 Destro

I found your quote, you find mine. Good luck.

You know, just for shorthand, maybe I'll numerate your rules and just call out numbers instead of spending time in rebuttal. For instance--2,3, and 5. And 8, lots of 8. You're filled with 8.

34 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 8:17:41pm

re: #33 Bob Levin

I will own up to my words. Republicans to me are Nazis. Fuck 'em.

35 Bob Levin  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 8:49:26pm

re: #34 Destro

Now own up to your techniques for argumentation.

36 Destro  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 10:11:34pm

re: #35 Bob Levin

I like my techniques. I call it the Revolutionary Socratic method.

37 Bob Levin  Wed, Sep 12, 2012 11:18:48pm

re: #36 Destro

Copyright's open to claim. The original authors are gone. Good luck.

38 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 6:00:08am

re: #36 Destro

I like my techniques. I call it the Revolutionary Socratic method.

HA! Socrates was a steady combat veteran, he was no drama queen. Like most ancient Greek hoplites, he'd regard you as foolish, unable to get along with your peers, and useless in a phalanx.

Be a man, Destro.

39 Destro  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 7:39:01am

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

You right wingers are not my peers. You might as well be foreigners akin to barbarians.

40 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 13, 2012 7:44:38pm

re: #36 Destro

I like my techniques. I call it the Revolutionary Socratic method.

Socrates you ain't, buddy.


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