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1 Curt  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 12:35:31pm

It's certainly interesting, how all of a sudden his local supervision in CA needs to talk to him, and the Feds will kinda come by and see if he wants to chat.

Given the "and anything else as directed by your probation officer" is on the "agreement," this is a case where an undefined "well, you shouldn't have done that" will trigger a violation question, just because.

Remember: It's up to who is in charge and this portends a bad, bad precedent on both sides of the aisle....

2 Winny Spencer  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 12:41:53pm

Before long any and all criticism of Islam will be criminalized.

3 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 12:52:36pm

re: #1 Curt

It's certainly interesting, how all of a sudden his local supervision in CA needs to talk to him, and the Feds will kinda come by and see if he wants to chat.

Given the "and anything else as directed by your probation officer" is on the "agreement," this is a case where an undefined "well, you shouldn't have done that" will trigger a violation question, just because.

Remember: It's up to who is in charge and this portends a bad, bad precedent on both sides of the aisle....

It was a parole violation for him to use the internet, actually, according ot the terms of his parole.

People need to stop freaking out about a paroleed grifter dude having his shit reviewed by a parole board.

4 Curt  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 1:08:19pm

re: #3 Obdicut

It was a parole violation for him to use the internet, actually, according ot the terms of his parole.

People need to stop freaking out about a paroleed grifter dude having his shit reviewed by a parole board.

Agreed. Best energy is spent looking for the people with AK-47s and RPGs who hunt down and murder diplomats and their staff....

5 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 1:09:32pm

re: #4 Curt

Agreed. Best energy is spent looking for the people with AK-47s and RPGs who hunt down and murder diplomats and their staff....

We can both look at this dude's parole, and do that. Parole officers don't usually go abroad and hunt down people with AK47s.

It's really weird how many people think someone's rights are being violated because his parole-- which is basically "We reduced your punishment because you promised to not fuck up society any more than you already have" is being reviewed.

6 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 1:21:13pm

If it was a parole violation, I begin to understand the need for his imaginary Jewish identity.

7 Destro  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 1:50:01pm

re: #1 Curt

re: #3 Obdicut

Both Curt and Obdicut, are right and the parole status of the individual takes away any 1st amendment considerations...but you know....

Also, be ready for the "Obama is a Muslim" crowd to say this is Obama carrying out Sharia law attack on our freedoms.

8 Winny Spencer  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 2:12:58pm

And be ready for the Obama sycophants to defend him no matter what.

9 Curt  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 2:13:45pm

re: #5 Obdicut

We can both look at this dude's parole, and do that. Parole officers don't usually go abroad and hunt down people with AK47s.

It's really weird how many people think someone's rights are being violated because his parole-- which is basically "We reduced your punishment because you promised to not fuck up society any more than you already have" is being reviewed.

It's not that the parole violation is the issue I'm looking at as much as: It's the locals now calling him in and ....oh, by the way....the Feds will want to ask a few questions.

So....if the local supervision authority has things under control for his possible breach of his restrictions, what a coincidence that the Feds will show up now. Or at least the media is right on top of reporting that this is a joint questioning session pragmatically. It's a penumbra not to be dismissed for where the shadow will fall for someone else. That's the bigger issue.

If the CA DOC hauls him off, well, shame on him for breaking his rules. If he is put into the custody of the Feds...then we have an entirely different issue at hand.

10 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 2:14:42pm

re: #9 Curt

It's not that the parole violation is the issue I;m looking at. It's the locals now calling him in and ....oh, by the way....the Feds will want to ask a few questions.

Do you understand he's on probation from Federal prison?

Apparently not.

11 Curt  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 2:17:39pm

re: #10 Obdicut

Do you understand he's on probation from Federal prison?

Apparently not.

Oops. I missed that. You're correct then. Thanks for pulling that one into my view.

12 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 2:19:13pm

re: #11 Curt

Oops. I missed that. You're correct then. Thanks for pulling that one into my view.

No problem. There is really nothing at all weird about a guy on parole for fraud who's not allowed to use the internet getting pulled in for review after he obviously does some shit on the internet.

13 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 3:38:08pm

re: #2 Winny Spencer

Oh, FFS...

The douchebag was under computer/Internet restrictions while on parole for a federal conviction on bank fraud and he broke it; is this really an issue for you?

14 Ben G. Hazi  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 3:41:43pm

re: #8 Winny Spencer

Go soak your head.

15 jaunte  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 3:55:43pm

re: #2 Winny Spencer

Before long any and all criticism of Islam will be criminalized.

Would you bet $10,000?

16 Obdicut  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 3:56:25pm

re: #15 jaunte

Would you bet $10,000?

Shit I want some of that action. Winny, what time frame do you think this will occur in?

17 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 4:44:27pm

re: #2 Winny Spencer

He's not being punished for what he said, he's being investigated for a parole violation. But don't let that get in the way of your persecution fantasy.

18 Buck  Sat, Sep 15, 2012 8:07:44pm

Well they let him go after 90 minutes, so I suspect they can't prove he violated his probation.

There are a lot of people who hope that the police are all over him 'like white on rice'. I assume they mean to protect him.

19 Curt  Sun, Sep 16, 2012 6:24:38am

re: #18 Buck

Well they let him go after 90 minutes, so I suspect they can't prove he violated his probation.

There are a lot of people who hope that the police are all over him 'like white on rice'. I assume they mean to protect him.

The term "use" legally would have to show he personally used it. If it wasn't his channel, and he was just in a video, or scripted it, and used a recording device of some sort to create it...who used the Internet to post it? That would be the rub for then cuffing him. Like it or not, they would have had to find he had the access and personally used it. Most likely, the digging into the story would show some other bonehead was the one to upload it.

20 Winny Spencer  Sun, Sep 16, 2012 9:48:29am

re: #16 Obdicut

Shit I want some of that action. Winny, what time frame do you think this will occur in?

If Obama is reelected, before the end of 2016.


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