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1 Bob Dillon  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 9:02:55pm

It is trusted that the powers that be in the WH are focused on the Strategic implications of our treaties with Japan vs. the Tactical maneuvers that Destro would seemingly have the focus on. Blow off our commitment to Japan since 1947 and the rest of the countries who have defense treaties with the US would freek-out. Being the worlds cop is challenging at best. Good luck President Obama. Here is the opportunity to torpedo the opposition once and for all in this election cycle.

2 Destro  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:11:08pm

re: #1 Bob Dillon

It is trusted that the powers that be in the WH are focused on the Strategic implications of our treaties with Japan vs. the Tactical maneuvers that Destro would seemingly have the focus on. Blow off our commitment to Japan since 1947 and the rest of the countries who have defense treaties with the US would freek-out. Being the worlds cop is challenging at best. Good luck President Obama. Here is the opportunity to torpedo the opposition once and for all in this election cycle.

I offered no past opinion on China or Japan for you to comment on.

But if I was to be asked for council - I would remind people - outside of the importance of China to our economy and their nuclear arsenal - that Pakistan and China have had some hints of an alliance because of India (China and India fought a skirmish and India lost) and China gets her oil from Iran. Iran may do China a favor and close the Persian Gulf as winter hits. Hate to see what that does to our fuel prices or the economy.

Meanwhile the Taliban are able to kill Americans inside our own bases seemimgly at will. China might well cause mischief in Afghanistan for us as well (and Russia may pull fly over rights) and may decide to roll up Taiwan once and for all.

What Russia would do here is uncertain but they might decide to pay NATO back for Yugoslavia and Libya and Syria by backing China (and the Japanese have been bothering Russia over returning some islands they lost in WW2). But maybe Russia turns off the gas to Europe during the winter to keep the Germans and French from being too eager to help.

Scary stuff.

This was something our State Dept should have been on top of - urging Japan not to nationalize those islands. Let sleeping dogs lie.

But the State Dept was distracted because some fucking idiots made a Youtube video that cause other fucking idiots in a part of the world that if you strip oil out of Mideast exports, the entire region exports less than Finland. In other words, we wasted years and treasure on a part of the world we should not be involved in.

I thing a president McCain would have made things worse now I imagine with a rogue VP Sarah Palin in the mix.

3 Bob Dillon  Mon, Sep 17, 2012 10:59:12pm

re: #2 Destro

well it was over here: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

that the engagement was offered. And it was your general thinking that was challenged. BTW - nice analysis above.

So the primary question still applies about strategic and tactical thinking when applied to what we can do personally that will have maximum effect vs. wishful thinking coupled with emotional engagement.

What do you do when you see a "tag"?

4 Destro  Tue, Sep 18, 2012 6:36:35am

re: #3 Bob Dillon

well it was over here: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

that the engagement was offered. And it was your general thinking that was challenged. BTW - nice analysis above.

So the primary question still applies about strategic and tactical thinking when applied to what we can do personally that will have maximum effect vs. wishful thinking coupled with emotional engagement.

What do you do when you see a "tag"?

How would I have known you engaged me in that other post? I don't actually read every posting on here.

Is it the Mexican tagging that bothers you? I don't get the concern there you are having and how it's linked to China and Japan?

5 Destro  Tue, Sep 18, 2012 7:38:11am

re: #3 Bob Dillon

PS: In my scenario I left out what the Chinese would have the North Koreans do if it came to some sort of military saber rattling with Japan. I am pretty sure any shooting war involving the USA and China would mean North Korea invades South Korea. Scary stuff.


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