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1 freetoken  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 2:40:50am

Dan Brown approves.

2 freetoken  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 2:48:21am

I'll note that the Smithsonian writer sort of glosses over many issues with these kind of things and doesn't fully describe the real nature of the arguments over early Christianity.

For example, this paragraph:

“My reaction is, This is highly likely to be a forgery,” King recalled of her first impressions. “That’s kind of what we have these days: Jesus’ tomb, James’s Ossuary.” She was referring to two recent “discoveries,” announced with great fanfare, that were later exposed as hoaxes or, at best, wishful thinking. “OK, Jesus married? I thought, Yeah, yeah, yeah.”

Neither the "Jesus' Tomb" or the "James's Ossuary" are hoaxes, rather, they are real things that probably don't mean what those who sell movies and books about them want them to mean. There's a real difference between a hoax and over-marketed poor archeology.

3 Tigger2005  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 3:48:50am

No, he wasn't married. He didn't exist.

The earliest extant Christian doctrines contain no references to an earthly Christ. They speak of a divine intermediary who "saves" in different ways. For Paul that was through descending, dying, and rising, similar to other savior gods of the period...however, Paul never speaks of Jesus as a real human who walked around Israel giving speeches and working miracles. There's nothing he says about Jesus that can't be applied to an entirely divine being...even "being found in human form," or being "born of a woman, born under the law" or Paul's version of the Last Supper. Jesus could be, or God could make him be, anything he needed to be in order to carry out God's will, and divine beings were not precluded from breaking bread and performing other such seemingly physical acts. Paul's Jesus descended through the heavens to the demon-ruled dimension between the Earth and Moon, where he took on human form and likeness was put to death by the "principalities and powers" of that region, than rose and put them under his feet. No earthly career intervened in this process.

Paul's Jesus isn't even the only version of Jesus found in the Bible itself...the Jesus of Hebrews saves in a decidedly different fashion from Paul's Jesus. Early Christianity was about the worship of a divine intermediary with no connection to any earthly person, and different Christian groups had different ideas about how this divine intermediary effected salvation. It took a couple hundred years or more before one Christian belief managed to become dominant and stamp out all the others as heresies.

4 Tigger2005  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 3:51:06am

Of course, the Christian belief that became dominant included belief that Jesus had been on Earth in the not-so-distant past? Where did that idea come from? From the Gospels, of course, of which the original was a piece of midrash fiction and allegory and not intended to be taken literally.


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