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1 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 11:55:33am

White House spokesman Eric Schultz :

If Republicans still have any legitimate questions about Fast and Furious, this 450-page report answers them. In light of this thorough report and Congress’s 16 month-long investigation, Republicans have no excuse to keep wasting time and taxpayer resources on politically-motivated, election-year attacks.

I have a feeling that won't slow them down.

2 Buck  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 12:31:34pm

It does not cover off the letter from the DOJ that was sent to congress and then had to be withdrawn. That letter was done after Holder learned of the death of the agent and was filled will errors.

It is a serious matter to lie to Congress.

The February 2011 letter said that the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives makes "every effort" to interdict weapons that have been purchased illegally before they cross into Mexico. It added that the allegation that the ATF had "sanctioned or otherwise knowingly allowed the sale of assault weapons" to suspicious people was false.

Bet everyone would like to forget about that, huh?

3 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 12:44:51pm

re: #2 Buck

and was filled will errors.

lol

4 cinesimon  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 1:24:27pm

Interesting headline.
Not very honest given the context, but informative as to the motives of the writer at CNN.

5 cinesimon  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 1:26:31pm

Buck, he didn't "lie to congress". It is you who are lying by suggesting such. And it's telling that you pretend to have already read the 450 page document.
Grow the hell up. You are too see-through to actually be able to make an argument in favor of your extremism.

6 Destro  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 1:51:29pm

re: #5 cinesimon

Why are right wingers hot on Obama on this when most of these programs are carry over from the Bush era?

7 Political Atheist  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 2:20:41pm

re: #6 Destro
I'm not here to speak for RWnutz.
But the following still matters.
Responsibility for a program is not limited to whoever started it, those who follow on and continue it are also held responsible for the actions of the people under them.

8 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 3:16:30pm

re: #7 Daniel Ballard

I'm not here to speak for RWnutz.
But the following still matters.
Responsibility for a program is not limited to whoever started it, those who follow on and continue it are also held responsible for the actions of the people under them.

Indeed. I can accept this report and I think its best to discipline (preferably fire) the people who screwed up and then close the book on this matter. The BATFE seriously screwed up in this case, and it needs to not happen again, but Holder wasn't part of the screw-up.

9 Buck  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:14:20pm

But was he part of the cover up?

10 Bob Dillon  Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:48:49pm

re: #8 Dark_Falcon
However ... he was the man in charge. ... Just sayin'.

11 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 6:45:44am

re: #10 Bob Dillon

However ... he was the man in charge. ... Just sayin'.

True that.

re: #9 Buck

But was he part of the cover up?

All evidence points to 'No'.

12 Buck  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:55:01am

re: #11 Dark_Falcon

All evidence points to 'No'.

Actually there is NO evidence one way or the other on this.

You are looking at the results of an internal investigation. There are a lot of holes in this investigation. I am pointing out a big one.

13 Obdicut  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 9:31:07am

re: #12 Buck

And you think the internal investigation is corrupt because..?

14 andres  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 10:30:47am

re: #13 Obdicut

And you think the internal investigation is corrupt because..?

It was done under a Democrat Administration? // Heck if I understand...

15 garhighway  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 8:21:28am

re: #12 Buck

Actually there is NO evidence one way or the other on this.

You are looking at the results of an internal investigation. There are a lot of holes in this investigation. I am pointing out a big one.

So you agree that there's no evidence of a cover-up. Excellent. Now we are getting somewhere.


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