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1 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 7:43:50pm

Concur. She was in the wrong and now must face the consequences of her actions.

2 Locker  Thu, Sep 20, 2012 11:13:37pm

Good.

I do not buy any of this conscientious objector style bullshit. You didn't join the military "just for the college money" never thinking you might actually have to, you know, go on deployment and do your job. Your opinion about mission has exactly jack and squat to do with the voluntary obligation you took on and agreed to fulfill.

Every member of the military knows and has experienced the fact that you are trained with a gun and your field equipment LONG before you see the inside of a classroom for your MOS training. Should give a serious reminder that your primary job is to fight not fixing trucks, cooking or predicting the weather.

Do... your fucking... job.

3 War On Music  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 8:32:53am

There is a poverty draft in America. Poor brown people are the ones who do most of the dying in order for rich white men to forcibly expand there businesses into other nations.

It's a shame that Canada, once proud of sheltering war resisters from the Vietnam era, is little more then a neo-colony of American Imperialism.

One dark day.

4 philosophus invidius  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 9:02:30am

What if she felt that she was being asked to murder people? I mean: not because warfighting is always murder, but rather because she judged that the Iraqis she was being asked to kill were justifiably defending their country.

5 Locker  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 9:53:59am

philosophus invidius if an order is lawful, you follow it. Going on deployment is a lawful and extremely typical order. Even if she was given an unlawful order, lets say to execute some civilian, you still can't desert an run to freaking Canada.

Personal opinion is irrelevant in the military when it comes to following orders. Period. I might feel that if I go through that trail in the brush I'll get ambushed and die. Doesn't matter how I feel about it, still have to do it.

She is/was scared to die. Period. Normal feeling but one all soldiers face. Being a coward and then holding up some bullshit reason why you deserted and left your country is pathetic and indefensible. She was NOT drafted.

Oh and BTW War on Music there are lots and lots and lots and LOTS of white people in the military. Let's not make this about race when it's clearly about dereliction of duty.

6 War On Music  Fri, Sep 21, 2012 11:18:25am

re: #5 Locker

There's no superior order that can cancel your conscience. Your logic is the logic of Eichmann.


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