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1 Destro  Fri, Oct 5, 2012 10:52:29pm

We have the for profit version of PBS called The Learning Channel (TLC) which was once publicly funded but then privatized.

TLC's number one rated show is "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo".

How Privatization of NASA's The Learning Channel devolved into a for profit child exploitation channel pushing Honey Boo Boo

What's in store for Big Bird if Romney privatizes PBS

...snip...

So when Mitt Romney and the Republicans talk about how much better off PBS would be de-funded and privatized, remember what privatization did to TLC and how TLC went from NASA beaming information into student classrooms to the disgraceful programs it runs today (many of which exploit children).

And since I foresaw this line of defense for Romney by the right wing against PBS, read also:

Dollar Makes me Holler: Honey Boo Boo's Critique of Post-Capitalist America

and

Why publicly fund PBS' Big Bird? Private for profit version is The Learning Channel's #1 rated show 'Here Comes Honey Boo Boo'

and

Why capitalism is not always a good thing: TLC Orders More Honey Boo Boo Plus Holiday Specials

2 dragonath  Fri, Oct 5, 2012 11:29:55pm

Come on, it's the New York Post. This is lunacy.

1) Ooh, so the CEO makes lots of money. I think that someone who helms a channel with meaningful and informative content deserves more than the guy who runs TLC- who makes $52 million. And his channels are shitty.

2) God forbid, there's a show like NOVA on the air that gets a penny of government money. It's certain to be Pit Of Hell material and who's to pay? Acceding to these demands is exactly what creationists and science skeptics want.

3) I like my unique and interesting programs that wouldn't stand a chance anywhere else; thank you very much. I'll even forgive their Lawrence Welk reruns and pledge drives. Ken Burns!

4) PBS programs invest in the future, on pennies to the dollar. Without the interstitial ads and commercial breaks on supposedly "premium" cable.

5) WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO HAVE A FUCKING PROFIT MOTIVE?!!

3 Joanne  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 2:56:05am

Why does everything have to have a profit? Because we, as a nation, have one primary religion; we bow to the alter of money. And the GOP is the the Bishop. Think of the GOP primaries...they cheered about freaking sick people w/o insurance. Die Baby, Die!

4 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 4:22:18am
President Obama’s own Simpson-Bowles deficit-reduction commission calls for ending PBS’ subsidy — some $280 million — outright. And for good reason.

This is complete bullshit of course. The Simpson-Bowles commission report doesn't mention PBS at all, not even obliquely. It does mention ending agricultural subsidies and tax deduction subsidies to for profit businesses.

Here, take a look. Show me where it mentions PBS?

It's really goddamned annoying when people uncritically pass along this kind of crap without bothering to research it.

5 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 7:10:20am

PBS's federal subsidy needs to be ended in order to properly set the tone for spending cuts. Balancing the federal budget is going to inflict real pain on people a little later on in the process. Before we make cuts like that, its important to show that all spending that wasn't needed was cut and those programs that could be safely privatized were in fact privatized. I don't think it right to say "We're cutting Navy R&D, but we're still funding Big Bird."

6 sauceruney  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 7:37:05am

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

I disagree completely. The military can employ programs like Six-Sigma, which corporations across the world have used successfully to cut out wasteful practices and find cost savings. I've been to military installations and govt. contractors on a regular basis as part of my job, and the atmosphere of not caring what things cost because there's a never-ending flow of cash coming from the taxpayers fills me with a dread that makes it hard to even go into those places, even though part of it is filling my own paycheck.

The military can absorb those cuts and function no worse, perhaps a bit better, than before. Cutting PBS and leaving its invaluable assets to be snatched up by networks for pennies on the dollar, is typical outsourcing by Republicans. Its shows that survive will be shadows of their former selves, and our society will notice the effects much more distinctly than our having one less fighter jet sitting in a hangar.

7 dragonath  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 7:45:09am

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

Your post would make more sense if we all lived in 4th Century BC Sparta.

8 andres  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 7:38:11pm

re: #2 dragonath

5) WHY DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO HAVE A FUCKING PROFIT MOTIVE?!!

Because it's an easy way (aka, cop out) to measure worthiness.

What they (happily) ignore are the intangibles, such as those that you mentioned.


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