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1 Sheila Broflovski  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 6:20:52pm

I have heard the exact same argument made about the Holocaust: that it was a "blessing in disguise" for Jews because without the Holocaust the state of Israel would never have been established.

WTF.

2 nines09  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 6:28:51pm

Just look at it this way; Only the strong or smart survived. You are better for it. Ignore the bodies and bones. You're welcome.

3 HappyWarrior  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 8:14:23pm

What the fuck. Sigh we go from the Republican party, a party established by the way to oppose slavery to people like this.

4 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 9:18:35pm

If he thinks it's so great, he can try it.

(Actual quote from Abraham Lincoln was that slavery was the only thing he had ever heard praised as a positive good that the speaker never wanted to try for himself.)

5 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 9:32:39pm

Sometimes good shit does happen because of bad shit. That doesn't make the bad shit acceptable.

I live in California, not a shithole like Belarus, because my great-grandparents decided they'd had enough of violent, government-approved anti-Semitism.

That doesn't make violent, government-approved anti-Semitism a good thing.

I went to school with kids who'd ended up in the U.S., enjoying the advantages of life here, because their parents had fled Cambodia during the seventies. That does not make the killing fields a net positive.

Once horrible shit happens, life goes on for the survivors, and in some cases, descendants find themselves in more advantageous situations than they might otherwise have been in. That doesn't bring back the dead, or repair the suffering. It sure doesn't justify the murder of innocents, or the monstrosity of slavery. We all go on as best we can.

6 MittDoesNotCompute  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 10:28:58pm

re: #2 nines09

Just look at it this way; Only the strong or smart survived. You are better for it. Ignore the bodies and bones. You're welcome.

If I'm reading this shithead's mind-blowing screed correctly, is he making the case that American slavery winnowed out the "weak" and those who were left benefited from "survival of the fittest"?

It's sort of funny how Hubbard is using an argument (erroneously) attributed to Charles Darwin in his studies of evolution (Herbert Spencer coined the term, while Darwin initially used "natural selection" in The Origin of Species; however, Darwin adopted Spencer's term in later editions of the book) to defend the horrid institution of slavery, when many in his own party denounce everything else that Darwin observed and wrote about and seek to replace with theocratic claptrap.

Then again, RWNJs are well-versed in cognitive dissonance...

7 HappyWarrior  Sat, Oct 6, 2012 10:42:32pm

re: #4 Mostly sane, most of the time.

If he thinks it's so great, he can try it.

(Actual quote from Abraham Lincoln was that slavery was the only thing he had ever heard praised as a positive good that the speaker never wanted to try for himself.)

I like that Lincoln quote a lot. I feel the same way about people who make light of things like waterboarding too. There's another quote I heard and it's to paraphrase: War is only desirable to those who have never experienced it.

8 CriticalDragon1177  Sun, Oct 7, 2012 11:34:36am

Sheila Broflovski,

Never mind that most of the blacks who were enslaved here never got to be citizens anyway, and even after slavery was officially outlawed, many of the states did all they could keep blacks from being able to fully exorcise their rights as citizens. Jon Hubbard really should take a black history class and maybe a logic class.


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