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1 Aligarr  Wed, Oct 10, 2012 9:45:27am

No surprise here , it's S.O.P. and has been for American buisinesses . Just look at Walmart , let the State or City they move into ,[ and put small buisinesses OUT OF Buisness ]foot the bill for healthcare services , why should they offer group policies and make stockholders unhappy ? AT&T for decades has had a policy to keep dividends high , just lay off 2000 employess .Today AT&T offshores customer service , outsources installation of inside and outside plant apparatus , lays off 10 people where there were 20 and then contrives "revised " monthly productivity parameters ,that must be met , if not met employees face disciplinary actions , suspensions and termination ,in every aspect of company operations .Service reps are now sales reps with daily sales quotas to be met , or hit the highway . Not to mention that many are subcontractors.
In Addition AT&T a.k.a. SBC GLOBAL was a member of ALEC untill the spotlight went on .

2 researchok  Wed, Oct 10, 2012 11:02:01am

They should have applied for a waiver.

3 calochortus  Wed, Oct 10, 2012 11:15:29am

While the anti-Obamacare folks will point out that evil health care reform is the reason for the cut, I would ask, what about the 75% of their employees who aren't eligible now? Ever tried to buy healthcare on the individual market? It's difficult and expensive. I'll bet most of the uninsured employees either get their insurance through a spouse or parent or go without.

4 nines09  Wed, Oct 10, 2012 11:17:51am

re: #3 calochortus

While the anti-Obamacare folks will point out that evil health care reform is the reason for the cut, I would ask, what about the 75% of their employees who aren't eligible now? Ever tried to buy healthcare on the individual market? It's difficult and expensive. I'll bet most of the uninsured employees either get their insurance through a spouse or parent or go without.

Try buying it at 61 with preexisting. Sure! ANYONE CAN BUY HEALTH CARE! BEST IN THE WORLD! Wait a minute.....You're a burned down house.

5 calochortus  Wed, Oct 10, 2012 12:21:42pm

re: #4 nines09

Well, we managed it in our 50s with a preexisting condition on my husband's part. Fortunately it was something that had come and then gone and we were able to explain this to the company. Otherwise, well, he would have been up a creek. Now that we're 60-ish, it is hideously expensive. Fortunately we can afford it if we are careful with our spending, but Medicare cannot come too soon IMHO.
I don't know what people who are closer to the edge financially do. Oh, wait. I do know-they go without, and it just shouldn't happen.

6 nines09  Wed, Oct 10, 2012 1:20:39pm

re: #5 calochortus

Well, we managed it in our 50s with a preexisting condition on my husband's part. Fortunately it was something that had come and then gone and we were able to explain this to the company. Otherwise, well, he would have been up a creek. Now that we're 60-ish, it is hideously expensive. Fortunately we can afford it if we are careful with our spending, but Medicare cannot come too soon IMHO.
I don't know what people who are closer to the edge financially do. Oh, wait. I do know-they go without, and it just shouldn't happen.

Depending on where you are and what is your situation it can be just about out of range. The dirty little secret is if you care and try and play by the rules you are fucked. Do he right thing and lose. Heaven forbid you should have saved a bit. The machine that is healthcare in this nation has to destroy you to help you if you are not " properly" covered. Thankfully my wife is now the breadwinner and I'm the dependent. It was close after they not only closed my plant after 27 years but then liquidated my next two jobs down to part timers.Glad you are getting by. It's not easy if you are being conscientious.

7 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 11, 2012 5:47:30am

Darden work rules and conditions are already bad enough to have triggered a labor reaction, Dignity at Darden:

[Link: www.dignityatdarden.org...]


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