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1 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sun, Oct 21, 2012 1:49:22am

I don't see where you get the idea that the foreign jihadis are "American backed" from. It seems as though lately you often push the wording and titles of your Pages beyond what is backed by evidence and argument and into baseless accusation and hyperbole. To me it just smells of trying to sensationalize your content rather than putting in the effort to improve it or research it further.

My 2 cents...

2 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 21, 2012 5:51:49am
The jihadists are not always welcomed by the Free Syrian Army, Abdeh added.

“They are wary of what they call the ‘Takfiri’ trend within the jihadist movement. The more extreme elements that don’t view the struggle in Syria as a struggle for democracy and freedom, but rather as a struggle to bring about an Islamic state.”

Huh, weird, because some people have tried to convince me the Free Syrian Army are nothing but fanatical Islamists.

3 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Oct 21, 2012 6:07:38am

re: #1 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

In fact, this is to be expected. Britain, because of its lack of effort in good assimilation, and no bulwark against Saudi (among others) influences, has begun to have an issue with radicals.

4 ckkatz  Sun, Oct 21, 2012 11:03:37am

Wow! As many as 15 Brits! Certainly sounds like a whole lot of swarming going on.

Of course, the article notes that these folks are not part of the FSA. (The FSA is estimated at 100,000 fighters, btw). And that the FSA upon hearing about Cantlie and his colleagues, rescued them.

5 Destro  Sun, Oct 21, 2012 11:51:40am

re: #1 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

re: #2 Obdicut

re: #4 ckkatz

I do see pro interventionists trying to minimize the link the USA has with Saudi Arabian intelligence that goes back to Cold War Afgan days.

The USA has plausible deniability when it comes to the Free Syrian army, helping them with 'non lethal aid' and contracts the dirty work through Saudi Arabia.

And regarding the comment from ckkatz minimizing the number of Brit jihadis in the Free Syrian Army, it is clear except to the most partisan of supporters of this foreign policy disaster that the FSA is a fig leaf for a jihadi Sunni rebellion:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Islamic Jihadists Are Now The Most Organized Force Of The Syrian Opposition

Michael Kelley | Oct. 11, 2012, 3:34 PM

Powerful Syrian Islamist brigades, frustrated by the increasingly fractured Free Syrian Army (FSA), are joining forces in an attempt to topple the regime of Bashar al-Assad, Reuters reports.

A citizen Deir Ezzor, a city in eastern Syria, told The Guardian that Islamist organizations “are the real fighters on the ground” while the FSA there “are only issuing statements” and “stockpiling weapons in the countryside for reasons we don’t understand.”

The man added that there is little coordination among FSA groups because there is “big conflict between the defected officers about who should be the commanders.” Consequently, people are now “more supportive of the jihadi organizations than the FSA.”

The jihadists brigades have decided to come together to form the “Front to Liberate Syria” and one jihadist leader told Reuters they have “more than 40,000 fighters now and the numbers are growing.”

6 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 21, 2012 12:02:46pm

re: #5 Destro

Actually, what that article claims is that the FSA is fractured and disorganized, and Jihadis are taking advantage of that to gain support for themselves. This strength of the jihadis is a self-assessment, too.

And since the point of the article is that the jihadis are not the FSA, your claim that the jihadis are American-backed is a goof on your party, you little goof you.

7 ckkatz  Sun, Oct 21, 2012 1:05:27pm

re: #5 Destro

> "And regarding the comment from ckkatz minimizing the number of Brit jihadis"

Actually, I was using the largest number provided by the article.

>"in the Free Syrian Army"

Actually the article explicitly points out that the Brit jihadis were not in the FSA.

To wit:
"But they were not the Free Syrian Army."

8 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 21, 2012 3:02:26pm

So a small group of Brummie radical Islamists are going to Syria to fight?

Yeah, they do that. Along with, you know, Chechens, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, probably some kids from France too...

Not sure how this one can be pinned on the U.S. in any way, shape or form. It does remind me of Iowahawk's old al-Zarqawi guest posts, where he would complain about the French jihadis screwing things up.

9 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Oct 21, 2012 4:44:49pm

re: #8 SanFranciscoZionist

So a small group of Brummie radical Islamists are going to Syria to fight?

Yeah, they do that. Along with, you know, Chechens, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis, probably some kids from France too...

Not sure how this one can be pinned on the U.S. in any way, shape or form. It does remind me of Iowahawk's old al-Zarqawi guest posts, where he would complain about the French jihadis screwing things up.

It'd be awful hard to support French jihadis. You have to buy portable refrigerators to hold all their cheeses!

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