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1 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 9:33:08pm

Here we go again with this right wing fake story.

2 Bob Dillon  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 9:43:50pm

Okay. McKeon may not be the most loved and have purest heart in congress, however, consider this:

Ms. Lamb, in her sworn written testimony before the House Oversight Committee, page 5, the IDNS system was activated and she could "follow what was happening almost in real-time".

Further:

[Link: www.state.gov...]

"As the night goes on, a team of reinforcements from Embassy Tripoli arrives by chartered aircraft at Benghazi airport and makes its way to the compound – to the annex, I should say. And I should have mentioned that the quick reaction – the quick reaction security team that was at the compound has also, in addition to my five agents, has also returned to the annex safely. The reinforcements from Tripoli are at the compound – at the annex. They take up their positions. And somewhere around 5:45 in the morning – sorry, somewhere around 4 o'clock in the morning – I have my timeline wrong – somewhere around 4 o'clock in the morning the annex takes mortar fire. It is precise and some of the mortar fire lands on the roof of the annex. It immediately killed two security personnel that are there, severely wounds one of the agents that’s come from the compound."

Now, someone gave an order. These guys did not "spontaneously" decide to take a trip to Benghazi. One of them, Glen Doherty, who came from Tripoli, died there.

What was the chain of command? The fight was monitored for hours before the guys from Tripoli arrived.

Panetta is taking some heat on this because there wasn't enough "intel".

How is it possible a small group of ??? (very brave men - whatever their non designation is) is sent into hell and not the military that has guys who are trained for and would love the opportunity?

3 Bob Dillon  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 10:39:11pm

While my knowledge of emergency communications procedures as well as routine traffic to and from US Embassies is about 40 or so years dated, if we could do it (comply with all embassy emergency protocols) with punched card technology back then - and I have to believe it has evolved profoundly since then - as I stated in another post - I was one of the IBM Data Communication Specialists in SE Asia back then. (the first one to arrive in-country in 1966) I have installed the equipment, I have been in the classified communications rooms. The IBM Logo was not the only recognizable Trade Mark visible on other equipment present. And the crypto gear I was trained on while in the Navy was there as well. I even joked with the embassy personnel that "I could fix that too for them if ever need be". (they would never have let me touch it as my mission was purely IBM-GEM-PacOps)

Here: [Link: jproc.ca...]

And here: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Something in the "official", evolving, story is just not right.

And, yes, the right wingers are all over this.

My favorite embassy was in Vientiane, Laos and I jumped at every chance to go from Saigon (hanging at the "White Rose" waiting for transport back to Saigon via Air America was a welcome past time). Yes, they had all the comm toys as well at an "Annex".

Here's a good story: [Link: www.downdirtyword.com...]

In Laos everything was set up different than in other Embassies throughout the world; the Attachés had their offices, administration, Intelligence, logistics, finance and communications in a compound on the outskirts of Vientiane. The Embassy was a few miles away in the city proper with their own personnel and support staff. I suppose it was because we weren’t really Attaché people at all, but part of a Military Assistance Advisory Group that was forbidden by the 1962 Geneva Convention.

4 Bob Dillon  Mon, Oct 29, 2012 11:09:30pm

Gee. Vientiane and the layout, kind of like Benghazi? ... some things never change. I offer my experience vs. whatever Kool Aid and conflicting rhetoric is on the daily menu.

5 Bob Dillon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 1:18:37am
6 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 30, 2012 6:35:42am

Great work on this one, Bob, but its not going to have an impact here on LGf. Too many have too much invested in Obama to want to hear anything but that which portrays the Obama administration in the best light possible.


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