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1 Destro  Fri, Nov 2, 2012 10:35:14am

A guy out of power from the olden days.......Chillax.

2 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Nov 2, 2012 12:21:42pm

I sincerely doubt he's going to convince Jordan that this is a good idea, no matter what Hassan bin Talal has to say on the subject.

Jordan would probably fight a war to avoid getting the West Bank back at this point.

3 Flavia  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 1:45:50am

Wow, talk about blind to history! Does he really think that King Abdullah would ever forget what happened with his father & Arafat?? Is it possible to use the word "chutzpah" in this instance? 'Cuz it fits like a dream (or, rather, nightmare)!

4 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 8:29:31am

re: #3 Flavia

Wow, talk about blind to history! Does he really think that King Abdullah would ever forget what happened with his father & Arafat?? Is it possible to use the word "chutzpah" in this instance? 'Cuz it fits like a dream (or, rather, nightmare)!

My theory is that this is aimed at Abbas, who is headed to the UN to ask for recognition for a state in the West Bank, and has made recent statements acknowledging Israel's right to the pre-67 territory. Given that Kaddoumi is based out of Tunisia because he considered Oslo rankest treason, and wouldn't move when the rest of the PLO leadership did,you can imagine how much he likes this. Meanwhile, Hamas is furious because Abbas is not even pretending to include them in local WB elections, and seems to be content to gradually leave them to themselves to rot inside Gaza while he junkets about trying to get the UN's approval for himself.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

Buckle up, folks. This is getting interesting. There's an Israeli guy I know a little who used to be an IDF representative to PA leaders in the West Bank. He knows the players pretty well. I should drop him a line and see what he thinks happens with all this.

5 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 3, 2012 11:52:47pm

re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist

My theory is that this is aimed at Abbas, who is headed to the UN to ask for recognition for a state in the West Bank, and has made recent statements acknowledging Israel's right to the pre-67 territory. Given that Kaddoumi is based out of Tunisia because he considered Oslo rankest treason, and wouldn't move when the rest of the PLO leadership did,you can imagine how much he likes this. Meanwhile, Hamas is furious because Abbas is not even pretending to include them in local WB elections, and seems to be content to gradually leave them to themselves to rot inside Gaza while he junkets about trying to get the UN's approval for himself.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

Buckle up, folks. This is getting interesting. There's an Israeli guy I know a little who used to be an IDF representative to PA leaders in the West Bank. He knows the players pretty well. I should drop him a line and see what he thinks happens with all this.

Yes, please do that. I would greatly welcome such insights.

6 Aligarr  Sun, Nov 4, 2012 6:50:26am

I think by now , anyone who knows the situation even superficially , has the "palestinian game plan " [and that the same as most muslims in the M.E. ] figured out . It is quite clear , whatever utterances comes from Hamas ,Fatah , Anyone in Lebanon , Syria [rebels or Assad Regime ] and yes, even Hussein of Jordan and virtually all of Egypt , that the Pan Arab Pipedream is the destruction of Israel and to rid the land of jews .I'm sure your Israeli freind has known this all of his life .
EVEN IF , there was to be a TEMPORARY/FALSE solution of Two States , the Palestinians State would merely be a next step , a springboard , a staging ground , to achieve the ultimate sworn muslim goal of Israel's utter destruction . They don't call the 1948 creation of Israel's Statehood " NAKBA " for nothing .


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