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1 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:49:22pm

It's been 150 years and the conservatives still disdain democracy!

2 Skip Intro  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:53:01pm

The people in these states must be getting their legal advise from the woman The Fogbow calls "The Worst Lawyer in the history of the planet", Orly Taitz.

Here is Orly's learned opinion on the matter, as of today:


"I came from Moldova, a country which successfully and peacefully seceded from the Soviet Union. So did 13 other countries, 6 countries seceded from Yugoslavia. States can successfully and peacefully secede from the United States

When position of the U.S. President is being usurped by a foreign citizen with all forged IDs and a stolen SSN, (number042-68-4425) it is an occupation. Any state has a right to peacefully secede from the union, but in the time of the usurpation of the US Presidnecy and occupation it becomes a necessity. Obama’s operatives like Lisa de Carr or whatever her real name is, are threatening and intimidating people because foreign usurper Obama wants to keep a grip on all 50 states."

So at least that's settled. Now on to Florida and Arizona to see if they can figure out how to finish counting their ballots.

As an aside, I'm sorry Charles' software removes the ALL CAPS posting style that makes Orly's opinions so compelling. That really needs to be fixed, IMO.

3 Lidane  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:02:23pm

Correction -- 15 states haven't filed petitions to secede.

Ignorant motherfuckers in 15 different states who can't accept a black POTUS for another four years have filed online petitions to secede.

4 docproto48  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:12:18pm

This merely confirms what I have been saying for almost 4 years now:
1.The extreme right wing would rather DESTROY the USA than accept a black man in the white house
2.The far right wing has applied the most agregious form of racism, the 1 drop rule to our biracial president

Who are these jackoffs anyway
DOC

5 SpaceJesus  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:15:23pm
New York, 169

lol

6 Skip Intro  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:20:28pm

re: #5 SpaceJesus

lol

Probably most of those 169 don't live in New York. I look at this as an unpopularity contest to get rid of the states you don't like.

Texas and Louisiana are still near or at the top in the race.

7 Tigger2  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:26:23pm

I would be willing to bet this stupid shit wont go any place. I will just make dumbasses look even dumber.

8 Skip Intro  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:31:10pm

re: #7 Tigger2

I would be willing to bet this stupid shit wont go any place. I will just make dumbasses look even dumber.

No, it won't go anywhere at all. If these "petitions" receive 25,000 signatures in 30 days, the WH can make a response, which in all cases will be "fuck you".

9 Lidane  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:35:30pm

re: #7 Tigger2

I would be willing to bet this stupid shit wont go any place. I will just make dumbasses look even dumber.

These petitions will be about as effective as every other online petition.

10 Tigger2  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:40:26pm

re: #8 Skip Intro

No, it won't go anywhere at all. If these "petitions" receive 25,000 signatures in 30 days, the WH can make a response, which in all cases will be "fuck you".

That's why I said I'd be willing to bet, I like a sure thing. lol

11 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:08:19pm

re: #8 Skip Intro

No, it won't go anywhere at all. If these "petitions" receive 25,000 signatures in 30 days, the WH can make a response, which in all cases will be "fuck you".

"Fuck you."
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12 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:13:15pm

Some Neanderthal racist piece of shit posted a link to this page at Stormfront.

[Link: www.google.com...]

13 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:34:06pm

There is at least one website supporting a confederate movement that claims members in all states. Their unique shtick is that they reject the term 'neo-confederate', insisting that they are the original Confederacy, existing in an occupied condition after the surrender of their armies, but not their government. It took me quite a while to determine that they are not a parody site.

Addendum: This should be a cache image of the site. Wouldn't especially suggest going straight in unless you have a lot of virus and psychiatric protection.

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

14 RadicalModerate  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:35:44pm

re: #12 Charles Johnson

Yeah, I noticed the referrer links from there. It would be interesting to see if any lizards used that to reach the article. (and something that I'm sure you'd LOVE to know about)

15 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:38:18pm

Reposting my response from earlier on this:

The funny thing is they are petitioning the Whitehouse.gov action request site "We the People." It has no legal standing and no requirement that Obama do anything no matter how many signatures a petition gets online. These secession petitions being submitted there is like calling the "Mayors Hotline" and asking for your house be removed from the city property tax rolls instead of just requesting for a pothole to be filled. Not that Obama even has any type of legal authority to grant states secession even if he did want to.

The entire thing is nothing but a stupid PR stunt meant to be a "scary message" to those damn meddling socialist liberals. Guess what wingnuts?
NO. ONE. CARES!

16 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:38:35pm

re: #13 Decatur Deb

There is at least one website supporting a confederate movement that claims members in all states. Their unique shtick is that they reject the term 'neo-confederate', insisting that they are the original Confederacy, existing in an occupied condition after the surrender of their armies, but not their government. It took me quite a while to determine that they are not a parody site.

Each former Confederate state had to re-apply to be allowed back into the Union, in order to end the military occupation.

Weird factoid: President Grant wanted to repatriate all the freed slaves to Santo Domingo (the Dominican Republic).

17 Cap'n Magic  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:39:26pm

Texas, with their ratio of tax inflows approx. .70 per 1.00 sent to the Feds, and with hundreds of thousands of millionaires, actually is perhaps the only of these states that actually stands a chance of actually being able to pull it off.

Too bad that they'd have to field a new currency (no way in hell will they be allowed to use the US Dollar for their currency-look at the debacle that's the Euro), new treaties with the rest of the world, field their own military and border patrol (the US will pull all ordinace (nukes included) out of TX is short order), negotiate new broadcast rights/frequencies with the FCC and the ITU, neogtiate thrid/forth/fifth freedoms for their flag carrier - A bankrupt American Airlines - but they'd still have to deal with the US TSA for intercountry fights between the new Republic of Texas and the US-Sorry, guys! - and that's just for starters.

18 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:42:35pm

re: #16 Vicious Babushka

Each former Confederate state had to re-apply to be allowed back into the Union, in order to end the military occupation.

Weird factoid: President Grant wanted to repatriate all the freed slaves to Santo Domingo (the Dominican Republic).

That would be the carpetbaggers, scallywags, and quislings.

19 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 6:43:02pm

re: #17 Cap'n Magic

Texas, with their ratio of tax inflows approx. .70 per 1.00 sent to the Feds, and with hundreds of thousands of millionaires, actually is perhaps the only of these states that actually stands a chance of actually being able to pull it off.

Too bad that they'd have to field a new currency (no way in hell will they be allowed to use the US Dollar for their currency-look at the debacle that's the Euro), new treaties with the rest of the world, field their own military and border patrol (the US will pull all ordinace (nukes included) out of TX is short order), negotiate new broadcast rights/frequencies with the FCC and the ITU, neogtiate thrid/forth/fifth freedoms for their flag carrier - A bankrupt American Airlines - but they'd still have to deal with the US TSA for intercountry fights between the new Republic of Texas and the US-Sorry, guys! - and that's just for starters.

THE AMERO!

(I Googled "Amero" and found a bunch of images but a lot of them appear to be spoofs or fakes)

20 dragonath  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:13:30pm

re: #13 Decatur Deb

So the Confederacy survived as a website for 150 years? This is news!

21 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 7:24:12pm

re: #20 dragonath

So the Confederacy survived as a website for 150 years? This is news!

A little respect, please. At peak they managed a baud rate of 160. Not bad for a guy with a brass telegraph key. If Orca was throttled to that throughput it might have worked.

22 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 8:33:35pm

re: #20 dragonath

That's right! To think, all these years, the glorious Confederacy was apparently alive and well in some idiots basement along with a stale bag of beer nuts and a stack of Barely Legal!

23 CuriousLurker  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:27:27pm

re: #6 Skip Intro

Probably most of those 169 don't live in New York. I look at this as an unpopularity contest to get rid of the states you don't like.

Pfft, you can easily find 169 mental cases hanging around the Port Authority & Times Square on any day of he week.

I mean, the total number of signers in all states combined is like, what, around 16,000 out of 311,591,917? You could fit them all on Riker's Island if you got rid of the existing civilian staff & guards there. Anyone want to start a petition to give them Riker's? If they need more space and/or a warmer climate, maybe Gitmo would be a better option... //

24 CuriousLurker  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 9:35:38pm

re: #17 Cap'n Magic

Texas, with their ratio of tax inflows approx. .70 per 1.00 sent to the Feds, and with hundreds of thousands of millionaires, actually is perhaps the only of these states that actually stands a chance of actually being able to pull it off.

Too bad that they'd have to field a new currency (no way in hell will they be allowed to use the US Dollar for their currency-look at the debacle that's the Euro), new treaties with the rest of the world, field their own military and border patrol (the US will pull all ordinace (nukes included) out of TX is short order), negotiate new broadcast rights/frequencies with the FCC and the ITU, neogtiate thrid/forth/fifth freedoms for their flag carrier - A bankrupt American Airlines - but they'd still have to deal with the US TSA for intercountry fights between the new Republic of Texas and the US-Sorry, guys! - and that's just for starters.

Yeah, and good luck with the economy in several cities when the US pulls all its military bases out of Texas. I wonder how long it would be before Mexico started rubbing its hands together thinking it might be nice to reclaim some of their old territory... //

25 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 2:20:23am

re: #19 Vicious Babushka

THE AMERO!

(I Googled "Amero" and found a bunch of images but a lot of them appear to be spoofs or fakes)

The original Amero coin was made by this guy, Daniel Carr, as a political statement. He said he created it to "raise political awareness of the ramifications of North American Union." It's funny that a coin that was only created to be a prop example against the "North American Union" has been latched onto by so many internet conspiracy idiots. Especially the people claiming it shows the government was designing Amero currency to replace the dollar, the government never had anything to do with it.

Now Mr. Carr sells the coins stamped in your choice of silver, brass, or copper in several different designs over the internet and calls them "barter coins." Guess he isn't so against the idea of the Amero that it prevents him from making a buck from it ehh?

26 Skip Intro  Mon, Nov 12, 2012 9:11:41am

The President of the Confederate Society of America is concerned about this petition.

In part, he says: "You need to Differentiate and Understand the difference between RESTORE & Secession.

RESTORATION Supersedes Secession & Re-Positions NULLIFICATION wherein the Sovereign States can Over-Ride the bogus Federal Statutes put in place and enacted since 1865.

Please follow me closely:

As such and as mentioned numerous times, The Republic of the Confederation REMAINS IN A CURRENT AND EXISTING STATE OF SECESSION, HAVING ALREADY SECEDED
& HAVING ALREADY addressed their Superior Right OVER the Central Government, via Their Right of NULLIFICATION!

WE, The States OVER-RIDE THEM- THAT’S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT !

THE BOGUS STATUTES AND LAWS ENACTED since 1865 & forced upon us by Washington is what is holding us Hostage.

In plain English- WE ALREADY EXIST, as per our Constitutional Right under the 10th Amendment of the Constitution.

Any attempt to ‘withdraw’ via Secession or Nullification, by virtue of THEIR TERMS/LAWS OF TODAY, will fail because Washington has already stacked the deck to make that illegal & impossible.

However, RESTORATION is an altogether different venue as ALL LAWS DERIVED & ENACTED PRIOR TO 1865 REMAIN IN EFFECT BUT HAVE SIMPLY BEEN ‘CLOSETED’ BY THE IDEOLOGUES IN WASHINGTON.

Therefore, by becoming a Confederate Citizen, in addition to holding a dual U.S. Citizenship, YOU CAN RESTORE THAT WHICH ALREADY EXISTS!

THE CONFEDERATE GOVERNMENT IS IN ABSENTIA!
THUS THE CURRENT & BOGUS EDICTS WASHINGTON HAS DESIGNED & CRAFTED EVER SINCE 1865 can be Overridden & Challenged.

The Provisional Government of The Confederate Republic is currently preparing a COMPLETE & TOTAL EXPOSE regarding
The CURRENT Laws & Statutes regarding Secession and Nullification so YOU can understand them & thus, the Real Options YOU can presume."

So, secession is unnecessary, the South lives anew, and slavery will be re-instituted at the earliest possible time.

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