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1 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 25, 2012 12:18:39pm

Quite an impressive milestone.

2 researchok  Sun, Nov 25, 2012 1:53:36pm

re: #1 Bob Dillon

I'd be more impressed if there were more than one plane involved.

A bit too contrived, I'd say.

3 TDG2112  Sun, Nov 25, 2012 3:24:33pm

re: #2 researchok

No, they have to start somewhere. This is a proof of concept. I personally didn't think they even had a plane ready to try this, but clearly they do. Now they can go back, check that everything worked as intended, and fix anything that didn't work quite right.

In the end they need 2 more to have a single carrier deployed at all times, but they are now on their way (3 is the magic number, 1 in port for refit, one out for training/reserve, one deployed).

But then, you know the thing is going to be shadowed at all times by an American sub that is probably so quiet they won't even be sure it is there.

4 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 25, 2012 3:49:46pm

re: #3 TDG2112

Why Carriers Are So Damn Expensive
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[Link: strategypage.com...]
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November 22, 2012: American nuclear aircraft carriers are expensive to operate. It’s not just the food and other supplies for the 5,600 people on board, or all the spare parts and fuel for the aircraft. A major expense is the periodic upgrades and refurbishments. For example, the USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71) will complete its mid-life refurbishment and refueling early next year. This RCOH (Refueling and Complex Overhaul) took over three years and cost $3.2 billion.
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[Link: www.fas.org...]
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Annual Operating and Support Costs for Nuclear-and Conventionally Powered Carriers

(Fiscal year 1993 dollars in millions)

Carrier type Annual cost
Nimitz-class nuclear carrier $235.4
Kitty Hawk/John F. Kennedy class conventional carrier 196.3
Additional cost for nuclear-powered ship $39.1
Estimates include the cost of initial nuclear fueling and refueling.

5 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 25, 2012 4:16:35pm

Video:

China has successfully landed a fighter jet on its first aircraft carrier, which entered service two months ago, the country's official news agency confirmed.

Xinhua News Agency said the landing exercise on the Liaoning carrier marked the debut of the J-15 fighter jet, a fighter-bomber developed by China from Russia's Sukhoi Su-33.

Al Jazeera's Khadija Magardie explains what makes the event a significant milestone for China.

6 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 25, 2012 4:30:19pm

re: #4 Bob Dillon

We still need those carriers. All of them. We need to make sure we are powerful enough to fend them off for the sake of the region. They are malignant power. In addition, we need to start raising taxes to pay off the debts we owe to them, and ban China from buying our debt.

I despise the PRC. The treatment of the Uighurs and the Tibetans initiated those feelings. I would like for the PRC to collapse. I wish there was a way to help push it towards that.

I prefer India as a balancing power to the PRC.

7 Bob Dillon  Sun, Nov 25, 2012 5:51:59pm

re: #6 ProGunLiberal

Absolutely. Talk of eliminating yet another carrier strike group is disturbing.

I was eight when China invaded Tibet. It was quite stunning to me even then and still carry hard feelings towards the PRC as well.

[Link: www.ndtv.com...]

India may have delays but they are working on their first Indigenous Aircraft Carrier. Quite a race:

The aircraft carrier is critical to India's ambition to emerge as a dominant player in the Indian Ocean region. Although India needs at least two, if not three, aircraft carriers, however, to ensure that it has at least one carrier available at all times, at present it is still pushing the 50 year old British made war horse INS Viraat. The warship has served the Navy for 25 years and should have been decommissioned in 2002. Naval experts say rarely do any Navy use ships which are 50 years old.


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