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Shopper who pulled gun in San Antonio Mall ‘within his rights’

Of course he his! Who would say otherwise?

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Crime • 11/27/12 4:43:56 am • Views: 686

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shopper who brandished a handgun during a Black Friday scuffle at South Park Mall was within his rights, according to San Antonio police.

Officers were dispatched to the mall’s Sears store about 9 p.m. Thursday in response to a call about a shooting, according to an incident report. When they arrived, they detained Jose Alonzo Salame, 33, who was holding a black 9 mm semi-automatic handgun with a black holster.

“We don’t see this very often,” Officer Matthew Porter said, adding that Salame did not break the law by displaying the weapon. “He was within his rights.”

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wheat-dogghazi Tue, Nov 27, 2012 5:09:27am

Only in Texas ...

Romantic Heretic Tue, Nov 27, 2012 6:00:14am

What's a few people killed or maimed against the wonder of the Second Amendment?

Political Atheist Tue, Nov 27, 2012 6:27:13am

re: #2 Romantic Heretic

Not everyone is up for a fist fight size or skill wise. Are those people not allowed a means of defense?

This is how self defense works. Might not have been a gun. If he were a fighter there would likely have been more injuries.

lostlakehiker Tue, Nov 27, 2012 8:52:30am

re: #2 Romantic Heretic

What's a few people killed or maimed against the wonder of the Second Amendment?

Nobody was killed. One person was slightly injured---from being popped in the face.

ckkatz Tue, Nov 27, 2012 9:39:09am

Not a well written report.

But from what I can glean from this and a couple of other articles on the internet (which may or may not be fact based), Alex cut into the line, Salme objected, Alex punched him, Salme pulled out a gun, and Alex ran behind a refrigerator.

Based upon the police immediately releasing him, and the Sears store management giving him a voucher, it sounds like they thought his actions were, for Texas anyway, reasonable. Interestingly, no word on what happened to Alex. Meanwhile, the Sears store probably lost several hours of prime retail time due to the fiasco, with who knows how many thousands of dollars of sales.

My own thoughts are that initiating a gunfight in the middle of a Black Friday over-crowded store is a good way to involve lots of innocent passersby. I think that Salme was extremely lucky that the confrontation ended before he actually fired a shot.

ckkatz Tue, Nov 27, 2012 9:53:53am

One followup... I want to thank 'ReamWorks SKG' posting this. By "Not a well written report", I meant only the original 'MySanAntonio.com' news article.

Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 27, 2012 11:59:20am

re: #5 ckkatz

Not a well written report.

But from what I can glean from this and a couple of other articles on the internet (which may or may not be fact based), Alex cut into the line, Salme objected, Alex punched him, Salme pulled out a gun, and Alex ran behind a refrigerator.

Based upon the police immediately releasing him, and the Sears store management giving him a voucher, it sounds like they thought his actions were, for Texas anyway, reasonable. Interestingly, no word on what happened to Alex. Meanwhile, the Sears store probably lost several hours of prime retail time due to the fiasco, with who knows how many thousands of dollars of sales.

My own thoughts are that initiating a gunfight in the middle of a Black Friday over-crowded store is a good way to involve lots of innocent passersby. I think that Salme was extremely lucky that the confrontation ended before he actually fired a shot.

Salme was lucky in that, yes, but it was also a risk he had to run. He was being attacked by an irrational person and due to crowds could not get away from the loon. He therefore drew his firearm, which stopped the attack. That's within the law as I understand it.

ckkatz Tue, Nov 27, 2012 9:53:32pm

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

I agree with you that the police, by returning his firearm, declared that his display of the pistol was within the law. At least the criminal part. And at least until review by the City Attorney.

I guess that I read the article a bit differently than you did, as I saw a mutual escalation (over Alex's cutting in line) between the two until the point where Alex stepped over the line and punched Salme.

I base my assumption on this particular paragraph in the article.

"Witnesses reportedly told police that Salme had behaved rudely that morning and had provoked the situation before pulling the handgun and pointing it at Alex, though San Antonio Police Sgt. Rob Carey said at the scene of the incident that he had actually pointed it at the ground."

I guess that I was thinking about what I would do in a situations like that. My thoughts are that the situation isn't worth escalating and raising the risk of injury, the risk of causing injury, or or the risk of legal bills. And I would hold Sears accountable for failing to maintain a safe and orderly store.

Interesting question.

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