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1 Buck  Sat, Dec 1, 2012 9:02:49pm

I don't understand. You are critical of The Prime minister because he is supporting Israel?

That 'Dear Leader' stuff never happened.... right?

I don't understand what you are saying.

2 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Dec 2, 2012 4:10:49am

A search on Google of "Our Dear Leader will lead us to a bright future. He is to be worshiped and adored by those of us who are unworthy of his love and leadership. " turned up nothing. Are you perhaps guilty of hyperbole here? Or do you have an actual citation to the editorial you mentioned?

3 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Dec 2, 2012 6:03:54am

re: #1 Buck

I am not critical of of Stephen Harper because he supports Israel. I support it myself. I am critical of him for trying to undermine a Palestinian state, which I also happen to support. As I've mentioned elsewhere I believe Palestine becoming a state will cause the Palestinians to act like a nation and the Israelis to treat them as a nation. I believe this will end the endless cycle of tit-for-tat violence that has plagued them for so long.

As far as 'Our Dear Leader' goes, I believe his actions show that Stephen Harper is an aristocrat of the first water. He prorogued Parliament twice. Once to avoid a non-confidence vote, and once to avoid a possible scandal. He was helped by a Governor-General who thought her only duties were to go on photo ops.

Let's not forget the G20 gathering a couple of years ago. Rather than hold it somewhere rather isolated, thus reducing security problems and cost, Harper decided to hold it in downtown Toronto! Then, despite over 10,000 police in the area and somewhere in the neighbourhood of $1 billion spent about two dozen assholes managed to go on a rampage for over an hour before slipping back into the crowds of peaceful protestors. Only then did the police start to act. They arrested over a thousand people and held them without charge in conditions that would be considered a war crime during war.

I believe that was planned by Our Dear Leader. There would be an election soon. Pictures of rioters in Canada's largest city would scare the living shit out of people, and pictures of the police rounding up lots of protestors would 'reassure' these frightened people would vote for Our Dear Leader because then he would keep them safe.

In my opinion, Stephen Harper is an aristocrat in the Jeffersonian definition. He distrusts the people and so is attempting to draw all power into his own hands.

re: #2 wheat-dogghazi

Yeah, I was guilty of hyperbole. I'm not going to apologize for it. As I just demonstrated my impression of that article was not too out of place.

Seriously people. Do you believe someone that Pammy thinks highly of is worthy of any recognition other than a boot up the ass?

4 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Dec 2, 2012 7:14:18am

I know nothing of Canadian politics, but I do understand Harper would probably feel right at home at a Tea Party gathering. I assume Canada follows Westminster rules, so Harper can't stay in office indefinitely, right?

5 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Dec 2, 2012 8:14:27am

re: #4 wheat-dogghazi

Canada does use Westminster rules so at the current time, no, he can't. But I'm sure he's planning on changing that. Whether he can get away with that is uncertain. None of his caucus can take a shit without his say so, and they form a majority at this time. Hopefully, if he tries it, enough of them will grow a spine to prevent that from happening.

If I were to compare Harper to anybody I'd compare him to Napoleon III. A business friendly dictator who's good at hiding his power behind a puppet legislature.

6 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 2, 2012 12:17:26pm

re: #5 Romantic Heretic

That comparison is inappropriate. He won a majority fairly, and the previous attempt to unseat him in 2008-2009 right after an election was a dishonest bit of chicanery. It's no more appropriate to call the Canadian Parliament a "puppet legislation" than it would be to call the US Congress that if both house were controlled by the same party as the president.

Don't blame Stephen Harper for the EPIC FAILs that have laid Canada's Liberal Party low. The Liberals got lazy and in Quebec they got corrupt. Harper is in charge because he won a free election. No dictator he.

7 garhighway  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 8:30:08am

For what it's worth, it seemed clear to me that the "Our Dear Leader" language was hyperbole and a comment on the tenor of the media piece being commented on.

8 Jolo5309  Mon, Dec 3, 2012 9:09:56am

re: #4 wheat-dogghazi

I know nothing of Canadian politics, but I do understand Harper would probably feel right at home at a Tea Party gathering. I assume Canada follows Westminster rules, so Harper can't stay in office indefinitely, right?

Incorrect on the former, he is a pragmatic conservative. I think he opposes abortions but he is unwilling to make any changes to the abortion laws. He strengthened the rights of gay marriages abroad by allowing them to get divorced in Canada. Does that sound like a tea party member to you?

He can stay in power as long as he wins elections, he does not have to leave the job as PM until he loses an election.

The big issue for many is the opposition parties (read the Liberal Party of Canada) have been unable to find a leader that can compete. Paul Martin, appeared weak and indecisive, Stephane Dion, who would have been a good PM was unable to articulate why he should implement a carbon tax, Michael Ignatieff shared a lot of comparisons to Mitt Romney (expected to win, not really in touch with people). The CPC branded Martin as weak, Dion as willing to sell the country down the river for a carbon tax and Ignatieff as "just visiting". Justin Trudeau is their latest great hope, and he has demonstrated his disdain for Western Canada too many times to get traction.

Maybe Marc Garneau can win...

9 Buck  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 9:13:07am

re: #8 Jolo5309

He can stay in power as long as he wins elections, he does not have to leave the job as PM until he loses an election.

He can stay in power as long as his Party has more seats (each elected democratically) that any other party, AND his party chooses him (again democratically) as their leader, AND he personally is elected to his seat in Parliament.

10 Buck  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 9:17:09am
As I've mentioned elsewhere I believe Palestine becoming a state will cause the Palestinians to act like a nation and the Israelis to treat them as a nation. I believe this will end the endless cycle of tit-for-tat violence that has plagued them for so long.

Well that is not what you say in your post, however that is your opinion.

I question your optimism, and wonder why you think the PA is authorized by the Arab Palestinian people to make the decisions you describe.

Why would you think that the PA will have any influence with the Arab Palestinian people.

What evidence (other than your feelings) do you have that this is not a continuation of the decades of "good cop, bad cop" act by the Arab Palestinian leadership?

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