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1 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sun, Dec 2, 2012 9:06:20am

Why does Boehner suddenly remind me of Romney?

Oh yeah, it's because he says a lot of vague generalities without ever mentioning anything that could be considered a specific proposal. Are these people never going to get serious and find the courage to actually tell people what it is they want?

If their ideas on the budget are really so "good and reasonable" then why don't they want anyone to know what they are?

2 calochortus  Sun, Dec 2, 2012 10:15:30am

re: #1 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Because they want to whine and point fingers at the Democrats.

Besides, it's a test of voters' devotion to the Republican Ideals™. They shouldn't have to lay it out for us. We need to show we we are worthy by trusting them to do the right thing.

3 Skip Intro  Sun, Dec 2, 2012 11:39:27am

The Republicans are masters of not giving specifics about anything. Remember the Willard/Ryan response to how they would cut the deficit, other than another tax cut?

Neither do I.

4 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Dec 2, 2012 12:30:05pm

Boehner won't give specifics because if he does the Dems will just lambast give as the "Grinch Who Stole Christmas". They don't want to make any serious cuts, and will simply call any specifics Boehner puts forward publicly "dead on arrival". He's right to refuse to fall for their BS tactic. They can negotiate in private or not at all.

5 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Dec 2, 2012 1:25:25pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Boehner won't give specifics because if he does the Dems will just lambast give as the "Grinch Who Stole Christmas". They don't want to make any serious cuts, and will simply call any specifics Boehner puts forward publicly "dead on arrival". He's right to refuse to fall for their BS tactic. They can negotiate in private or not at all.

You mean "the Grinch who stole Planned Parenthood because Baby Souls matter more than women; really like tax cuts for large corporations that are for some reason referred to as "small businesses"; is really into privatization even though it's fiscally inefficient; wants to de-fund the EPA and the FDA; but will brook absolutely no cuts to the military budget."

The last time the Republicans issued small details it was the Ryan Budget, which was not just "lambasted by Democrats" but shown to be innumerate to the point it would increase the deficit it was trying to fix, and was hated not just by partisan politicians but by the public in general. They can't argue substance because there's none to be had: they've got a hash of free market voodoo, crony-ism, and prosecution of social conservative agenda through fund allocation.

So what's being done is exactly the same obstructionism as last year: grouse about being "serious" but providing no details while accusing the President of "not being serious" because he won't sign a blank check. They've fallen back on the artifice of presenting nothing solid while promising everything.

6 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Dec 2, 2012 1:31:52pm

re: #5 The Gender Ambiguity of a Flea

And the last time they pulled this shit it cost the country 18 billion dollars. So I'm calling horseshit about all this "concern" about money. They can't make a good argument for what they want to do--their projections and analyses make everyone but the Heartland Institute do spit-takes of outrage and incredulity--so they have to take the economy hostage and demand capitulation.

7 Skip Intro  Sun, Dec 2, 2012 1:39:23pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Boehner won't give specifics because if he does the Dems will just lambast give as the "Grinch Who Stole Christmas". They don't want to make any serious cuts, and will simply call any specifics Boehner puts forward publicly "dead on arrival". He's right to refuse to fall for their BS tactic. They can negotiate in private or not at all.

Why does your party hate America so much?

Operation Rolling Tantrum

Oh, boy. This isn’t going to end, even when or if a deal is reached on defusing the austerity bomb; John Boehner has just declared that he’s going to hold the full faith and credit of the United States hostage every time we hit the debt limit. Nor will it be a case of holding the nation at gunpoint until it meets GOP demands; Republicans are signaling that they don’t intend to make any specific proposals, they’re just going to yell and stamp their feet until Obama soothes them somehow.

So this is going to be nightmarish, unless Obama surrenders — which I don’t think he will (because he shouldn’t).

And one thing to think about: if the next two years are, as they seem likely to be, one long Republican tantrum, the 2014 election is not going to be a normal midterm. It will instead be a referendum on GOP obstructionism, which may attract a lot more attention — and much higher turnout — than normal.

Link

You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

8 CuriousLurker  Sun, Dec 2, 2012 4:59:09pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Boehner won't give specifics because if he does the Dems will just lambast give as the "Grinch Who Stole Christmas". They don't want to make any serious cuts, and will simply call any specifics Boehner puts forward publicly "dead on arrival". He's right to refuse to fall for their BS tactic. They can negotiate in private or not at all.

Lambast? LAMBAST? Are you effing kidding me? Who has been lambasting whom for 4 years straight? The GOP no longer has any credibility after all the stunts they've pulled.

POTUS is being smart and he's playing hardball. What is it with you? When the GOP plays hardball you don't mind at all—in fact, you defend it as perfectly legitimate because they want to win—yet when the Dems do it, you start clutching your pearls and staggering towards the fainting couch. Stop being so hypocritical; it doesn't look good on a guy who's always talking about personal honor and integrity. It makes it look like you just pay lip service to those ideals when they're convenient, and then toss them aside when they're not.

The GOP doesn't like it? Boohoo, elections have consequences. Maybe in the future they'll try addressing what all the American people want and what's best for the entire country instead of just pandering to their base and obstructing POTUS at every turn.

Obama to GOP: I’m done negotiating with myself

[...] We’re seeing two things here. One is that the negotiations aren’t going well. When one side begins leaking the other side’s proposals, that’s typically a bad sign. The other is that Republicans are frustrated at the new Obama they’re facing: The Obama who refuses to negotiate with himself.

That’s what you’re really seeing in this “proposal.” Previously, Obama’s pattern had been to offer plans that roughly tracked where he thought the compromise should end up. The White House’s belief was that by being solicitous in their policy proposals, they would win goodwill on the other side, and even if they didn’t, the media would side with them, realizing they’d sought compromise and been rebuffed. They don’t believe that anymore.

Perhaps the key lesson the White House took from the last couple of years is this: Don’t negotiate with yourself. If Republicans want to cut Medicare, let them propose the cuts. If they want to raise revenue through tax reform, let them identify the deductions. If they want deeper cuts in discretionary spending, let them settle on a number. And, above all, if they don’t like the White House’s preferred policies, let them propose their own. That way, if the White House eventually does give in and agree to some of their demands, Republicans will feel like they got one over on the president. A compromise isn’t measured by what you offer, it’s measured by what the other side feels they made you concede.

The GOP is right: This isn’t a serious proposal. But it’s not evidence that Obama isn’t serious. He’s very serious about not negotiating with himself, and his opening bid proves it. Now that they’ve leaked his initial offer, the next question is obvious: What’s their offer? [...]

9 andres  Sun, Dec 2, 2012 8:07:49pm

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Boehner won't give specifics because if he does the Dems will just lambast give as the "Grinch Who Stole Christmas". They don't want to make any serious cuts, and will simply call any specifics Boehner puts forward publicly "dead on arrival". He's right to refuse to fall for their BS tactic. They can negotiate in private or not at all.

A small, and perhaps, insignificant detail here, Dark: Big Orange is supposed to be negotiating. When in negotiation, both sides put forward what their first proposals, and from there they start to accept and reject parts of the proposals. What Big Orange is doing is posturing, plain and simple, and expecting Obama to negotiate with himself so he won't be held responsible for the Republican proposals.

10 EPR-radar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 3:07:49pm

re: #7 Skip Intro

Why does your party hate America so much?

Link

You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.

This is why the debt ceiling toy needs to be take away from the GOP screaming babies.


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