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1 lostlakehiker  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 4:48:42am

September (latest I could find) unemployment rate: 7.8 nationally, 6.8 Texas.

The whole idea of federalism is that the states get to experiment, and that instead of having a theoretical discussion of what logically stands to work best, we can just try everything and then see what works.

2 alinuxguru  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 5:15:37am

MS provides slave labor in the form of privatized prisons. TX provides poverty wages by providing corporate welfare. Way to go GOP leadership. You are an example to third world nations everywhere.

3 dragonfire1981  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 5:16:04am

re: #1 lostlakehiker

September (latest I could find) unemployment rate: 7.8 nationally, 6.8 Texas.

The whole idea of federalism is that the states get to experiment, and that instead of having a theoretical discussion of what logically stands to work best, we can just try everything and then see what works.

The problem is Texas THINKS this works when it actually doesn't.

4 kirkspencer  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 6:54:22am

re: #1 lostlakehiker

September (latest I could find) unemployment rate: 7.8 nationally, 6.8 Texas.

The whole idea of federalism is that the states get to experiment, and that instead of having a theoretical discussion of what logically stands to work best, we can just try everything and then see what works.

As the article points out, Texas unemployment is low. At the same time Texas is near the top for poverty numbers.

The phrase to know is "working poor." If 40 hours per week means you are still eligible for assistance while your company is making record profits, we all have a problem.

5 lostlakehiker  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 7:33:38am

It is a valid point that statistics require context, and that a lower unemployment rate does not settle the argument. But let us look deeper. If the choice is low or high wages, high is better. Looking at say Michigan suggests that it can happen that the choice is between insisting on high wages and getting high unemployment, or going for less unemployment but with lower wages. It should be kept in mind that TX receives, and assimilates, a large immigrant flow. Most without English mastery or advanced education. What hope is there of having a low poverty rate? We do have lower cost of living. The same income goes further. And we, unlike much of the country, treat our high school graduates to in state tuition. Even if they are undocumented. It is a step toward a better future for the next generation and for our economy.

People are voting with their feet, and voting to live in TX. Yes we have problems. So does blue state territory.

6 CarleeCork  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 10:58:31am

Speaking of Texas, have you heard about the new golf course that's been approved? We are suffering a severe drought and our officials think we need another water guzzling golf course.

7 sauceruney  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 11:31:00am

re: #5 lostlakehiker

Texas isn't going to be a red state for very much longer.

8 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 11:36:17am

re: #5 lostlakehiker

It is a valid point that statistics require context, and that a lower unemployment rate does not settle the argument. But let us look deeper. If the choice is low or high wages, high is better. Looking at say Michigan suggests that it can happen that the choice is between insisting on high wages and getting high unemployment, or going for less unemployment but with lower wages. It should be kept in mind that TX receives, and assimilates, a large immigrant flow. Most without English mastery or advanced education. What hope is there of having a low poverty rate? We do have lower cost of living. The same income goes further. And we, unlike much of the country, treat our high school graduates to in state tuition. Even if they are undocumented. It is a step toward a better future for the next generation and for our economy.

People are voting with their feet, and voting to live in TX. Yes we have problems. So does blue state territory.

Hey guess what! There are jobs in Michigan! So you can take your "All the part time minimum wage jobs for all the hours you can stay awake!" and shove 'em where the sun don't shine.

9 KingKenrod  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 11:49:20am

Texas is actually 4th in per capita business incentives. Alaska, West Virginia, and Nebraska are 1, 2, and 3. Michigan is 5th, followed by Vermont.

10 lostlakehiker  Tue, Dec 4, 2012 7:41:41pm

re: #7 sauceruney

Texas isn't going to be a red state for very much longer.

I know. But it will remain a right to work state, with lower than average taxes and lower than average unemployment. Its schools, as per naep test results, will remain better than CA. They will likely improve. And it will continue to attract internal migration.


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