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1 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:26:54am

This birth rate thing is hitting the white conservative movement at a gut level. Whites will be "outnumbered" within a few decades, and they feel very threatened. Maybe they figure the USA will become another Zimbabwe. It's an emotional response, and no amount of patient reasoning will dissuade most of these people from a gut-level fear of being an oppressed "minority."

What are the hot issues for these people? Immigration, undocumented workers, the black guy in the White House, birtherism, Muslims, Mexicans, making English the "official language," the "war on Christmas," the "oppression" of Christianity, impending shariah doom, mosques, atheists, birth control, low birth rates (among white folk, anyway), ACORN, the 47% (who as we all know reproduce like rabbits /snark).

And maybe that's why they reject evolution, too, because it says "adapt or die," and they ain't adapting too well.

2 stabby  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 2:31:41pm

re: #1 wheat-dogghazi

This birth rate thing is hitting the white conservative movement at a gut level. Whites will be "outnumbered" within a few decades, and they feel very threatened. Maybe they figure the USA will become another Zimbabwe. It's an emotional response, and no amount of patient reasoning will dissuade most of these people from a gut-level fear of being an oppressed "minority."

Some of it sounds like projection to me. You just need to add a few words in brackets like this:

"I'm afraid that minorities will won't consider my people human [just like I don't consider them human]"
"I'm afraid that minorities will be greedy and plot against us [just like I'm greedy and plot against them]"

Etc. They'd have to be better people to be able to imagine that others are better people.

3 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 3:27:52pm

Not to try to take anything away from the article which does an efficient job of addressing how the changing demographics are in conflict with the conservatives previously cherished notion of out breeding us. Rather, I would also like to point out that their basic premise that the God fearing forces of conservatism would out breed the heathen liberals was always deeply flawed to begin with.

Simply put, there is no guarantee that a child born into any conservative Christian household will retain those beliefs into their adulthood. In fact we hear of exactly the opposite happening almost every day. Children raised in an environment that attempts to shield them from exposure to the real world and that tries to fill their head with irrational beliefs often rebel upon reaching young adulthood.

Eventually those children must venture out and make their own way in the world and we often hear tales of lament about how woefully unprepared they were to deal with it. I'm not trying to knock religion or conservatism in general, my ire is reserved for those who would try to control every facet of their child's thinking. It often fails to take lasting hold, or worse, backfires by leaving the child resenting the very beliefs with which they were unsuccessfully indoctrinated.

4 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 3:30:08pm

re: #2 stabby

Some of it sounds like projection to me. You just need to add a few words in brackets like this:

"I'm afraid that minorities will won't consider my people human [just like I don't consider them human]"
"I'm afraid that minorities will be greedy and plot against us [just like I'm greedy and plot against them]"

Etc. They'd have to be better people to be able to imagine that others are better people.

Ahem...

Projection?

5 kirkspencer  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 3:30:26pm

re: #2 stabby

Some of it sounds like projection to me. You just need to add a few words in brackets like this:

"I'm afraid that minorities will won't consider my people human [just like I don't consider them human]"
"I'm afraid that minorities will be greedy and plot against us [just like I'm greedy and plot against them]"

Etc. They'd have to be better people to be able to imagine that others are better people.

There's also some fear of payback. And let's face it, people being people there'd be more than a couple who would seek that payback. Unfortunately for the right it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. The harder you fight the more likely it happens.

6 Skip Intro  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 4:20:43pm

Gen. Jack D. Ripper was way ahead of the curve when he warned us about the fiendish threat to our precious bodily fluids, but we laughed at him. Now we're paying the price.

7 Obdicut  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:38:59pm
The right- just like the left- have contributed mightily to the character of this country. Hospitals, charities built by conservative or religious Americans can be found all over the land and volunteerism by conservative or religious Americans have left a permanent and honorable mark on the tapestry of the nation

What the fuck is this? Most on the left are 'religious'.

8 researchok  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:23:00pm

re: #7 Obdicut

What the fuck is this? Most on the left are 'religious'.

Who said otherwise?

Or as you would say, What the fuck is this?

9 Obdicut  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:29:05pm

re: #8 researchok

Who said otherwise?

Or as you would say, What the fuck is this?

Well, in this construction:

Some on the right have lost their way. While that may be cause for celebration for some political adversaries, it is a sad time. The right- just like the left- have contributed mightily to the character of this country. Hospitals, charities built by conservative or religious Americans can be found all over the land and volunteerism by conservative or religious Americans have left a permanent and honorable mark on the tapestry of the nation.

The standard English interpretation of this would be since you're asserting the right has contributed mightily and then go on to talk about 'conservative or religious' Americans, you're talking about the 'right'. Otherwise, why are you only referencing conservative and religious Americans? You're obviously not talking about things the right AND the left has built, or your paragraph makes no sense at all.

I don't know. Maybe you just wrote this terribly.

10 cinesimon  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:35:57pm

re: #9 Obdicut

Indeed. I think you're being too kind though.
It's dishonesty shrouded in what he seems to think is deniability - something many right wingers who consider themselves to be moderate do all the time.

11 ಠ_ಠ  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:01:46pm

re: #3 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Came here to say this. I just don't understand what makes them think that their children will never develop opinions of their own. Their "conservative" brains are so invested in maintaining the status-quo they can't even conceive of someone changing their views and beliefs as they aquire new information over time.

12 stabby  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 1:48:48am

re: #5 kirkspencer

There's also some fear of payback. And let's face it, people being people there'd be more than a couple who would seek that payback. Unfortunately for the right it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. The harder you fight the more likely it happens.

Ridiculous. How would payback even work?


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