Pages

Jump to bottom

10 comments

1 Joanne  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 4:07:21pm

I realize that I have said this before, but Fuck Walmart.

2 EPR-radar  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 4:14:55pm

Lovely. We get to see a repeat performance of all the abuses documented in the "The Jungle" and other reports from the muckraking era (i.e., when acts of Journalism in public were known to occur).

//

4 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 5:58:00pm

re: #3 researchok

Locker had an interesting observation on this story

But then California does not get together with Oregon, Nevada, Arizona, and Mexico and have meetings where they mandate exactly what they will pay the contractors of California for specific goods or services. Nor do they dictate the suppliers those contractors must use for their raw materials or set the prices that will be paid for those materials.

These so called contractors for Walmart and the other large clothing buyers in reality operate much like wholly controlled subsidiaries of them. They carefully maintain a legal separation of ownership of these businesses but meanwhile control every aspect of them right down to every cent of profit they are allowed to pocket.

Why do you think this industry group of clothing buyers was even meeting to discuss this in the first place? If the buyers do not agree to provide any money in the contracts for safety precautions and enhancements then there simply will not be any improvements. Where else is the money going to come from? Cuts to the workers measly wages or the owners scanty profits?

Read up a little on how Walmart deals with it's suppliers, even those here in the United States. They represent such a large volume of market sales that they now dictate terms to all of their suppliers. Walmart decides what they will pay for an item, not the business trying to sell it to them.

5 sauceruney  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:10:40pm

Any US corporation doing business overseas (and their suppliers) shouldn't be exempt from following US law in those countries when it applies to employee health, safety and environmental protections. Raise the cost of doing business everywhere.

6 Mentis Fugit  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 7:09:12pm

I believe that until overseas suppliers are required to conform to the target market's labour laws, standards, etc, Third World labour continues to be a form of ersatz slavery.

Walmart would appear to agree with me, but their solution is to drag their workers' lot down rather than pull their suppliers' lot up.

7 Destro  Wed, Dec 5, 2012 9:09:26pm

re: #6 Mentis Fugit

I believe that until overseas suppliers are required to conform to the target market's labour laws, standards, etc, Third World labour continues to be a form of ersatz slavery.

Walmart would appear to agree with me, but their solution is to drag their workers' lot down rather than pull their suppliers' lot up.

So called "open border / free trade" has created a rise in slave labor around the world. Please don't think slave labor has to look like slave labor did in the American south or Rome. It can and does look like the slave labor in this burned down factory.

8 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 12:42:19am

re: #6 Mentis Fugit

I believe that until overseas suppliers are required to conform to the target market's labour laws, standards, etc, Third World labour continues to be a form of ersatz slavery.

ftfy

9 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 5:41:50am

re: #7 Destro

So called "open border / free trade" has created a rise in slave labor around the world. Please don't think slave labor has to look like slave labor did in the American south or Rome. It can and does look like the slave labor in this burned down factory.

Not to contradict you, but I would add to that that Wal-Mart is less concerned with the lives of garment workers in Bangladesh than most 1850's plantation owners were about the health of their slaves. The reason being that following the banning of the importation of slaves in 1808, slaves were expensive in the US, and so their owners took care to ensure that slaves were not killed in accidents in order to not lose their investment. Wal-Mart, by contrast, doesn't care because it can get new overseas workers cheap. And if a city were to pass and enforce fire safety laws, then the looms are just trucked away to someplace else .

10 Destro  Fri, Dec 7, 2012 10:30:41pm

re: #9 Dark_Falcon

Not to contradict you, but I would add to that that Wal-Mart is less concerned with the lives of garment workers in Bangladesh than most 1850's plantation owners were about the health of their slaves. The reason being that following the banning of the importation of slaves in 1808, slaves were expensive in the US, and so their owners took care to ensure that slaves were not killed in accidents in order to not lose their investment. Wal-Mart, by contrast, doesn't care because it can get new overseas workers cheap. And if a city were to pass and enforce fire safety laws, then the looms are just trucked away to someplace else .

You did not contradict me at all. I agree that the current free trade / open borders has created a slavery condition that is in many ways worse than the American slavery system before the slave trade ban.

Before the banning of importing slaves, slaves died off in plantations like sugar plantations in large numbers and were imported in large numbers. It was cheap labor in that regard. Before free trade and open borders American companies took care of their workers up to a point because they were the only game in town, especially after they organized.


This page has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a Page

This is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.

Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.

Last updated: 2016-01-01 10:29 am PST

LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!

Recent Pages
amirbasiri
Hoax is the right definition of moderation in Iran
Following the election of Iranian President Hassan Rouhani back in 2013, time and again the international community has learned – at times through hard lessons – of the notion moderation inside Iran being nothing but a hoax. The most ...

5 hours, 58 minutes ago
Views: 67 • Comments: 0 • Rating: -1
Tweets: 0 • Share to Facebook

Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
BeachDem
February 8, 1968—The Orangeburg Massacre
Everyone remembers, or knows about, the students killed at Kent State in 1970. It has been memorialized in photos, stories and songs. Most know about the killings at Jackson State, which also took place in 1970. But in February of ...

6 hours, 4 minutes ago
Views: 82 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 0 • Share to Facebook

Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Thanos
Future Islands - the Chase
Filmed live at The Music Farm in Charleston, SC on April 14, 2015 by Allen Alcantara on a GoPro Hero4. US Tour Crew:Live Sound: Dan FromeLighting Designer: Phil WeinholtTour Manager: Allen AlcantaraKing of Shirts: Dan GaetaLive drums: Michael Lowry ...

13 hours, 33 minutes ago
Views: 107 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 1 • Share to Facebook

Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Thanos
Kimbra - ‘Goldmine’ a Day at Salvation Mountain Ft Nicholas Slick Stewart
My extremely talented friend Slick wanted to film a dance to Goldmine, a song from The Golden Echo that he was particularly inspired by. So on the day of my 25th birthday Kenny took us all to Salvation Mountain ...

1 day, 9 hours ago
Views: 198 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 1 • Share to Facebook

Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Thanos
Polica - Wedding (Live on the Current)
Polica perform "Wedding" off the album 'United Crushers' live in The Current studio. Listen to the full in-studio session: thecurrent.orgConnect with The Current:thecurrent.orgyoutube.comtwitter.comfacebook.cominstagram.com Become a member:contribute.publicradio.org Current

1 day, 9 hours ago
Views: 210 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 1 • Share to Facebook

Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Thanos
Tom Winter - Catalyst - Multi-Tracked Acoustic Guitar
An original composition by Tom Winter dedicated to and inspired by the late Michael Hedges. For more of Tom Winter's music, including original music and acoustic video-game arrangements, check out his YouTube channel: youtube.com Follow his Facebook fan page ...

2 days, 8 hours ago
Views: 323 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 2 • Share to Facebook

Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Thanos
David Bowie - Wild Is the Wind - Live
2 days, 9 hours ago
Views: 350 • Comments: 2 • Rating: 2
Tweets: 1 • Share to Facebook

Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Thanos
Earth Wind & Fire - After the Love Is Gone
Earth Wind & Fire - Live in Japan

2 days, 9 hours ago
Views: 274 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 9 • Share to Facebook

Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Thanos
Earth, Wind & Fire Founder Maurice White Dead at 74 - SFGate
Earth, Wind & Fire founder Maurice White, whose horn-driven band sold more than 90 million albums and made hits like "September," ''Shining Star" and "Boogie Wonderland," died Wednesday at his home in Los Angeles, his brother Verdine said. White, ...

2 days, 9 hours ago
Views: 204 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 1 • Share to Facebook

Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Great White Snark
Someone (Mostly) 3-D Printed a Working Semi-Automatic Gun
Seriously, semi auto handguns should have a universal registration law. Even if you home build it. Say 30 days from the moment it can fire. Felons of course would be subject to arrest just possessing the gun, serial number ...

3 days, 13 hours ago
Views: 684 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 12 • Share to Facebook

Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0