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1 researchok  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 8:38:29am

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2 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 11:55:19am

We can pay now or wait for climate change to be a crisis, and pay vastly more. In blood.

3 lostlakehiker  Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:45:47pm

There is no real possibility that the U.S. will pay China what it costs to switch over to wind/solar/nuclear. Not at current levels of those technologies. We could do it for ourselves, but it would be a hugely expensive project. And we're below broke as it is.

Both the U.S. and China are making serious progress with wind and solar technologies. As Al Gore has noted, there's almost a Moore's Law going on with solar. If the pace can be roughly maintained, the cost of making the switch will drop dramatically. In the meantime, we need to keep building pilot projects, so as to work our way through the wrinkles that will inevitably crop up in any massive project, and do so before we go to build enough to cover the bulk of our electricity needs. Also in the meantime, we need to transition from coal to natural gas. Shut down coal entirely as an electric power source. We have ways to get natural gas for cheaper, and it produces half the CO2 per Kwh.

If China doesn't have, or cannot tap, its own natural gas supplies, we could help them reduce their CO2 footprint by selling them natural gas. We could also help them reduce it by doing the most energy-intensive manufacturing at home and selling them aluminum, steel, etc. made here, made with more energy-efficient or at least greener technologies.

If they're going to buy a lot of stuff from us, we have to be willing to buy a lot of stuff from them. Trade works that way, or it doesn't work at all. We could make a start by lifting our tariffs against their solar and wind tech. Those may have made a bit of tit-for-tat sense, but in the larger scheme of things they're counterproductive, and the election is over.


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