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1 Buck  Fri, Dec 7, 2012 11:50:10am
But such a response would raise political complications for President Obama because marijuana legalization is popular among liberal Democrats who just turned out to re-elect him.

And now he doesn't need them any more.

From The Department of Justice a memo Wednesday instructing the head of the Drug Enforcement Administration and leading officials in the U.S. Attorneys Office to treat medical marijuana shops as top priorities for prosecutors and drug investigators.

The 2011 memo in PDF form.

The Department of Justice is committed to the enforcement of the Controlled Substances Act in all States. Congress has determined that marijuana is a dangerous drug that the illegal distribution and sale of marijuana is a serious crime that provides a significant source of revenue to large scale criminal enterprises, gangs and cartels.

2 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Fri, Dec 7, 2012 11:58:09am

Obmaa has been rather consistent in enforceing the law --both in Pot and Immigration. Areas the wingnuts should be happy with.

3 researchok  Fri, Dec 7, 2012 12:08:57pm

Great minds and all that- I just posted a similar story from NYMag

4 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Fri, Dec 7, 2012 12:19:42pm

re: #3 researchok

Great minds and all that- I just posted a similar story from NYMag

It's probably the same story. I thought the NYTimes was subscription only, so I stayed with the Alternet version.

5 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 7, 2012 12:23:39pm

Obama has endured little consequence for ATF going after state legal dispensaries & growers here in California. Immigration is niot focusing on felons as Obama has said he wants. Again, little or no blowback on the President. he seems unwilling to confront the agencies.

Many smokers look at at Obama on this and say "broken promise". I'd link but my Sonicwall won't let me go there from work.

6 What, me worry?  Fri, Dec 7, 2012 1:04:44pm

re: #1 Buck

If you want to cut out "a significant source of revenue to large scale criminal enterprises, gangs and cartels" then you legalize it. Federally. Tax it and collect enough revenue to solve the economic crisis. MJ is no more or less dangerous than alcohol and has more medicinal properties than alcohol.

My observation is the silence from the red states on "state's rights". Or maybe they just don't care if it doesn't have a racial component.

7 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 7, 2012 1:43:23pm

re: #6 What, me worry?

The cartels will just do cocaine and the rest. legalizing pot just changes their inventory, unfortunately. It does get pot users out of criminal contact, well worthwhile right there.

8 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 7, 2012 1:50:43pm

re: #7 Political Atheist

The cartels will just do cocaine and the rest. legalizing pot just changes their inventory, unfortunately. It does get pot users out of criminal contact, well worthwhile right there.

Wiping out 60% to 70% of any business's inventory has a huge effect. It doesn't mean that other parts of the battles against the cartels will cease. It's one big new weapon in the war. It would help a lot. Read this if you want the perspective of a man who lives across the border from Juarez and will take a seat in Congress in January.

9 wrenchwench  Fri, Dec 7, 2012 1:51:25pm

re: #6 What, me worry?

MJ is no more or less dangerous than alcohol and has more medicinal properties than alcohol.

MJ is much less dangerous than alcohol.

10 What, me worry?  Fri, Dec 7, 2012 2:43:25pm

re: #9 wrenchwench

MJ is much less dangerous than alcohol.

I agree with you. There's some arguments about pot's dangers, but I think the worst is that is lowers sperm count.

Another benefit is that it would be safer if government regulated. Who knows what they're using now to grow it (DDT, etc.).

11 What, me worry?  Fri, Dec 7, 2012 2:47:20pm

re: #7 Political Atheist

The cartels will just do cocaine and the rest. legalizing pot just changes their inventory, unfortunately. It does get pot users out of criminal contact, well worthwhile right there.

Does anyone actually use coke anymore? Sounds so 80s! Seems like the synthetic, chemical-style drugs are more popular. That and prescription, if you're gonna go that route. You can still function fairly well with moderate amounts of pot or alcohol - a glass of wine, a couple hits. Don't think there's such a thing as "moderate cocaine use" or ecstasy or whatever. At least with coke, the more you snort, the more you want.

12 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Fri, Dec 7, 2012 6:40:07pm

re: #11 What, me worry?

Does anyone actually use coke anymore? Sounds so 80s! Seems like the synthetic, chemical-style drugs are more popular. That and prescription, if you're gonna go that route. You can still function fairly well with moderate amounts of pot or alcohol - a glass of wine, a couple hits. Don't think there's such a thing as "moderate cocaine use" or ecstasy or whatever. At least with coke, the more you snort, the more you want.

Prescription drugs for ADHD, like Adderall seem to have taken over for Cocaine with the college crowd.


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