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1 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 1:03:07pm
But another sign of the old guard’s denial came on Friday, a month after the election, when the Romney campaign ebulliently announced that it raised $85.9 million in the final weeks of the campaign, making its fund-raising effort “the most successful in Republican Party history.”

This reminds me of body counts in Vietnam. As if somehow bigger numbers means victory.

2 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 2:35:14pm

Ehh...the GOP isn't going anywhere, it is just going to have to go through a period of readjustment. In time things will get painful enough for them to fully realize that their current path leads to a dead end. By then there also will no longer be any perceived benefit to keeping the crazies in the party anymore.

Meanwhile the crazies may save them the trouble and self-deport themselves from the GOP anyway. You only have to listen to the wingnut diatribes on many of the leading Right Wing sites to realize that there is a lot of exasperation with the GOP in their circle. Talk of moving to a third party is getting a little louder and more common every day.

3 Mattand  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 2:58:25pm

I'm starting to get sick of all this eulogizing of the GOP from the Left. Not because I'm a Republican, but because it's the same self-congratulatory horseshit I heard in 2008.

Two years and one lousy economy later, Democrats got their asses handed to them by a party that the non-Fox pundits had declared DOA.

Swear to God, I should go into punditry. You can make up any old shit and get paid a fortune to do it.

4 kirkspencer  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 2:59:35pm

re: #2 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Ehh...the GOP isn't going anywhere, it is just going to have to go through a period of readjustment. In time things will get painful enough for them to fully realize that their current path leads to a dead end. By then there also will no longer be any perceived benefit to keeping the crazies in the party anymore.

Meanwhile the crazies may save them the trouble and self-deport themselves from the GOP anyway. You only have to listen to the wingnut diatribes on many of the leading Right Wing sites to realize that there is a lot of exasperation with the GOP in their circle. Talk of moving to a third party is getting a little louder and more common every day.

No, they won't self-deport. The reason is simple: money. The game as currently rigged gives the GOP a lot of direct and indirect funding. If the party splits only one group gets those assets.

I'm not saying there won't be a split. I'm saying who "left" is going to be very contentious.

5 Mattand  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:06:18pm

re: #4 kirkspencer

No, they won't self-deport. The reason is simple: money. The game as currently rigged gives the GOP a lot of direct and indirect funding. If the party splits only one group gets those assets.

I'm not saying there won't be a split. I'm saying who "left" is going to be very contentious.

I'll say it: there won't be a split. Not going to happen.

As is evidenced at this blog, you'll hear conservatives whine and protest that they are moderates and yet still vote GOP, thereby endorsing the Palins and Akins in US politics.

Moderate like Specter and Crist have been driven out, and the remaining moderates are too chickenshit to grow a spine and admit how their party is one giant clusterfuck.

The GOP is not dead. It will not split. It will become so radically conservative, so unapologetically fanatical, that you are going to see them start making excuses for things like abortion clinic bombings.

6 Skip Intro  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:38:13pm

re: #3 Mattand

I'm starting to get sick of all this eulogizing of the GOP from the Left. Not because I'm a Republican, but because it's the same self-congratulatory horseshit I heard in 2008.

You make a valid point, but the thing is, never before have I seen a party look at every single thing they did wrong during a campaign, then decide to double down on all of it . An internal civil war in the GOP is certainly a possibility, but I don't think it's going to be the rational ones who win it.

7 jvic  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:15:16pm

re: #6 Skip Intro

You make a valid point, but the thing is, never before have I seen a party look at every single thing they did wrong during a campaign, then decide to double down on all of it.

This.

The last straw for me was not that they lost a winnable election again, but their reaction to the loss. Many "conservative" blog commenters were vocal in predicting a landslide victory and shouting down concerns as defeatist. Those same people did not even pause after the results; they doubled down on Akin's abortion position. That's when I walked away.

An internal civil war in the GOP is certainly a possibility, but I don't think it's going to be the rational ones who win it.

The GOP is a coalition of religious nuts and corporate welfare recipients. If the religious nuts keep torpedoing elections, the corporate welfarists will look for an accommodation with the Democrats.

Republicans are already talking about regaining the Senate in 2014. Maybe losing the House instead, and failing to regain the Presidency in 2016, will snap them out of their delusions. I doubt it though.

Then again, the 1964 election--if not that, then Watergate--seemed to finish the GOP. Instead they got Reagan and a generation of majority-party status. You can never tell about American politics.

8 Destro  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 10:39:13pm

re: #3 Mattand

I'm starting to get sick of all this eulogizing of the GOP from the Left. Not because I'm a Republican, but because it's the same self-congratulatory horseshit I heard in 2008.

Two years and one lousy economy later, Democrats got their asses handed to them by a party that the non-Fox pundits had declared DOA.

Swear to God, I should go into punditry. You can make up any old shit and get paid a fortune to do it.

re: #6 Skip Intro

You make a valid point, but the thing is, never before have I seen a party look at every single thing they did wrong during a campaign, then decide to double down on all of it . An internal civil war in the GOP is certainly a possibility, but I don't think it's going to be the rational ones who win it.

I kind of was surprised that the GOP was able to organize a comeback for the midterm elections as well but I think that was their last gasp. The GOP's astroturffed Tea Party was only able to galvanize by turning up the hysterics and appealing to the bottom of the barrel types - the kooks you hear calling in on talk radio or take FreeRepublic seriously. The Tea Party was like "the Battle of the Bulge" kind of effort where they were able to push back - but only by upping the crazy and the racism.

The GOP then started to cut back on that because they lost a few winnable races by nominating overt kooks.

They are now purging these fanatics from the party now that their usefulness has come to an end.

9 Mattand  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:03:32am

re: #6 Skip Intro

re: #7 jvic

re: #8 Destro

re: #6 Skip Intro

I kind of was surprised that the GOP was able to organize a comeback for the midterm elections as well but I think that was their last gasp. The GOP's astroturffed Tea Party was only able to galvanize by turning up the hysterics and appealing to the bottom of the barrel types - the kooks you hear calling in on talk radio or take FreeRepublic seriously. The Tea Party was like "the Battle of the Bulge" kind of effort where they were able to push back - but only by upping the crazy and the racism.

The GOP then started to cut back on that because they lost a few winnable races by nominating overt kooks.

They are now purging these fanatics from the party now that their usefulness has come to an end.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I don't think so.

First off, kicking four Tea Baggers off of congressional committee leadership isn't a purge, it's a tiny start. Boehner doesn't have the spine to follow through on the major housecleaning needed.

Second, the utter tone deafness that many Republicans/conservatives are still displaying a month after their ideas got rejected would be impressive, if it wasn't so pathetic.

Look at how Benghazi has become the new 9/11 truther movement, or how the fiscal cliff negotiations are going. This is not a party about to cleave into an ideological civil war.

Third, to quote Bill Clinton, it's the economy, stupid. If things aren't appreciably better in two years, Americans will turn to someone different to try and fix it. And as in 2010, they don't care if that someone wants to criminalize abortion and thinks Jesus wrote the Constitution.

Americans are fucking idiots like that at times.

To tie back into Ms. Dowd's column, calm the hell down and put away the elephant-sized toe tags. Radical conservatism is then new normal for the GOP. They aren't dead, they aren't splitting up, and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to go brush up on their history.


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