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1 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 3:58:40pm

The GOP, as currently constituted, really has no understanding of the separation of church and state. What was it Jesus said? Oh, yeah. "Render unto Caesar those things that belong to Caesar, and those things unto God that belong to God."

That maybe the only quote I know from the Bible, except for "Love one another as I have loved you." Too bad the theocrats can't understand either of those quotes.

2 austin_blue  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:08:24pm

Thanks for the semi-segue! It's all part of the same stupidity campaign:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

3 Skip Intro  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:12:27pm

re: #1 Romantic Heretic

The GOP, as currently constituted, really has no understanding of the separation of church and state. What was it Jesus said? Oh, yeah. "Render unto Caesar those things that belong to Caesar, and those things unto God that belong to God."

That maybe the only quote I know from the Bible, except for "Love one another as I have loved you." Too bad the theocrats can't understand either of those quotes.

They call themselves Christians, but they worship the vengeful god of the OT , just like their mortal enemies, the radical Muslims, do.

4 austin_blue  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:42:10pm

Frontal passage at 6:31 CST just now. High today in Austin was 80 degrees. Low Tuesday morning will be 28 degrees. Pretty intense little Alberta Clipper.

5 calochortus  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:51:05pm

So, how well did the Texas prayer rally work to end that drought?

6 austin_blue  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 4:59:09pm

The gods hate us.

7 calochortus  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 5:12:50pm

Sorry about that.

8 austin_blue  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 5:40:04pm

re: #7 calochortus

Sorry about that.

Don't be. Anything that embarrasses Field Marshall Doctor Rick Perry Dada is a mitzvah!

9 Charles Johnson  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 5:47:29pm

Wow, theocracy is here, folks.

No US government, federal or state, has any business issuing these kinds of proclamations.

10 austin_blue  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 5:56:48pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Wow, theocracy is here, folks.

No US government, federal or state, has any business issuing these kinds of proclamations.

Agreed, my man. Beyond the pale. And the whole concept of "Reign Down" indicates a complete lack of free will among us all. it indicates that god is, in fact, all knowing. Which means that nothing we do makes a difference, since it knows what we will do. Which makes us pawns to kismet.

Pitiful.

11 Bill Nye: People Magazine 'Sexiest Man Alive'  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 6:14:50pm

These idiots are so blinded by their extremist beliefs they have no idea what kind of shit cake they are baking for themselves. Want to erode the line between government and religions? Ok! But remember, it opens the gate to ALL sects and religions into government, Not just your little nutty 'One flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest' sect.

Good old fashioned religious wars are what this country needs. Those were the good days.

12 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 6:17:17pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Wow, theocracy is here, folks.

No US government, federal or state, has any business issuing these kinds of proclamations.

Ahhrrrr, tis discrimnatin gainst thems as been teched by t' Holiness o' Him wit t' Noodly Appendages! No mention o' proclaimin' a State day o' pasta feastin' in reverence t' Him b' criminal like I tells ye!

13 Kdizzle  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 6:24:00pm

I just don't see the difference between this and some decree sent down on any given day by the Mullah Oligarchy in Iran.

Its title feels like a literal translation of some other language.

14 jaunte  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 6:56:19pm
Described as day of “worship and prayer,” “Reign Down” is sponsored by the several government-affiliated groups and leaders, including the Congressional Prayer Caucus and Republican Rep. Trent Franks.

Trickle down, reign down, whatever. It doesn't work, and we have empirical evidence of that.

15 Tigger2005  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 7:02:49pm

The GOP has plenty to repent for. It will take them more than a day. I think they need a month of repentance minimum.

16 Skip Intro  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 7:17:07pm
the Republican governor urged citizens to “collectively repent of distancing ourselves from God and ask for His mercy on us.”

What better proof is there that there is no god than him not sending bolts of lightning to burn these holy hypocrites to a crisp?

17 dragonath  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 7:42:38pm

Repent sinners!

18 jaunte  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 8:27:31pm

"Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity,
I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal."

19 Destro  Sun, Dec 9, 2012 10:15:24pm

re: #1 Romantic Heretic

The GOP, as currently constituted, really has no understanding of the separation of church and state.

I beg to differ. The GOP knows very well this but also knows that appealing to religious wedge issues serves them well.

20 researchok  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 12:22:41am

I fully agree with sentiments which keep religion and sentiments apart.

That said, how is this really any different from the National Prayer Breakfast ceremonies and other religious proclamations which have come from Congress or the WH over the decades?

21 Obdicut  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 4:05:17am

re: #20 researchok

That said, how is this really any different from the National Prayer Breakfast ceremonies and other religious proclamations which have come from Congress or the WH over the decades?

The National Prayer Breakfast is organized by a slightly shady religious organization specifically so that it's not coming from government, so that's rather different.

What other religious proclamations are you thinking of?

22 Randall Gross  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 5:30:39am

re: #20 researchok

Think about it this way: what if the president issued such a decree? Keep in mind that Brownback's run before, and you can bet he will be in line in 2016. This is part of his initial campaign.

23 [deleted]  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:08:38am
24 calochortus  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:30:42am

re: #21 Obdicut

In 1952, a joint resolution by Congress, signed by President Truman, declared an annual, national day of prayer. In 1988, the law was amended and signed by President Reagan, permanently setting the day as the first Thursday of every May. Each year, the president signs a proclamation, encouraging all Americans to pray on this day. Last year, all 50 state governors plus the governors of several U.S. territories signed similar proclamations.

Link

25 cinesimon  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 12:14:37pm

I don't understand how this issue is only really taken up by atheists. Sure, there are a tiny minority of people of various faiths - but really, this issue ought to be pushed very aggressively by the religious.
Of course, as De Mint and many others have made overtly clear: this is about political power more than anything.

De Mint himself, as the author of the below linked New Yorkers article writes, believes it's a zero-sum game:

"I’ve said it often and I believe it—the bigger government gets, the smaller God gets."
[Link: www.newyorker.com...]

The subjugation of women and minorities would be merely a bonus - a show of strength and warning to their enemies, and of course, a sweet reward to their constituents. Their main cause is shoring up power, changing the rules so they can retain it. We have seen this before, time and again - different excuses and ideologies, but in the end, the religion or ideology is a ruse to gain support. To ensure the massively wealthy can pretend to be of the people. The right wing are currently supporting a prty that is not in any way 'christian'. It's far more like Vladimir Putin's party United Russia - from their advocacy of violence against detractors, their hatred toward minorities and women, their constant twisting of electoral rules, their focus on image rather than substance, and on and on - of course, the most obvious: their use of the Russian orthodox Church. America's version is a combination of organizations(they still consider themselves 'churches' in the name of tax, power and the ease of pretending to be victims of oppression - once again the loss of power) who're losing their power and see the republican party as a way to gain some power back: Catholic, the various conservative evangelical,

Of course, anyone who actually has faith in their religion, and truly believes in the life lessons in their scripture, ought be absolutely disgusted and disturbed by the De Mints of the world, the Catholics, the Mormons and the various evangelical 'churches'... They would not want their religion running the country, or the world. What kind of faith is it when you force others to live by your religion?
No faith at all - but lots of very insecure, angry old people with money. who, of course, benefited from a society they are currently trying to tear down.


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