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1 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 7:45:22am

Then how about amending Obamacare, Sen. Durbin, you big-spending embarrassment to the state of Illinois?! If he's now rejecting Medicare reform, then its time for John Boehner to take his leave from the president, walking away saying "Call me when you're serious."

2 aagcobb  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:19:09am

re: #1 Dark_Falcon

Then how about amending Obamacare, Sen. Durbin, you big-spending embarrassment to the state of Illinois?! If he's now rejecting Medicare reform, then its time for John Boehner to take his leave from the president, walking away saying "Call me when you're serious."

Raising the medicare age is mean and dumb. It will save the government some money but cost seniors vastly more.

3 Joanne  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 9:38:20am

How about talking about LOWERING the Medicare age? I would gladly pay my $560 per month into Medicare instead of private insurers! I am 53 and healthy. Let me buy in!

Thank goodness for Dick Durbin. I have always voted for him and I will continue to do so.

re: #2 aagcobb

It will cost the government more because the later things are diagnosed, the more costly they are. Unless the GOP just wants to kill people earlier, thus saving all healthcare costs. Because people like me in desk jobs are going to make it (mostly). People in construction and other physically difficult jobs are going to have a much harder go of it.

The one thing I disagree with him on is means testing. Medicare and SocSec are BENEFITS. Once means testing comes into play, they become entitlements and we all know what the GOP does with entitlements...they make them things those icky black people need and take away from those who work!

All bullshit all the time.

4 andres  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 10:36:59am

re: #1 Dark_Falcon

Then how about amending Obamacare, Sen. Durbin, you big-spending embarrassment to the state of Illinois?! If he's now rejecting Medicare reform, then its time for John Boehner to take his leave from the president, walking away saying "Call me when you're serious."

Dude, I appreciate you, but this is bullshit.

To add another angle here, a government's first and foremost priority should its people. When the government starts looking at people as numbers, it loses purpose, and people suffer.

And seriously? You think John "Big Orange" Boehner is anything remotely serious in this negotiation? He's just making hot steam, and providing no substance.

5 Joanne  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 10:40:57am

re: #4 andres

Don't you know that being serious only takes place when you cut programs that help the average American spending - specifically spending on benefits that people have paid into most if not all of their lives?

6 Interesting Times  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 11:34:47am

re: #2 aagcobb

Raising the medicare age is mean and dumb.

In other words, entirely consistent with the "modern" GOP platform.

7 Amory Blaine  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 11:37:19am

I agree with Joanne about lowering the age. As Obama made clear single payer was off the table I was hoping he would have lowered the eligibility age of medicare to 55. It would take out the highest risk clients leaving younger healthier ones for the market. It also would have released a wave of retirements providing opportunity for younger workers waiting for them family supporting jobs.

8 Amory Blaine  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 11:45:30am

Furthermore the 55 to 65 age set is ambitious and I could see a scenario where, unshackled by the fear of losing health coverage, they would embark on small business ventures. Being able to fully commit would help the market as well. If we want to talk about uncertainty.

9 Skip Intro  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 11:54:29am

We have the stupidest health care insurance system in the entire first world. Why does anyone still think expecting people to get their health insurance from their employer is a good idea? Oh, I know, you can got out into the wonderful free market and buy your own. I know, because that's what I did. I recommend that everyone who thinks raising the Medicare age is a good idea go try it. You'll be surprised, and not in a good way.

Just like another myth - tax cuts for the rich create jobs - this one is well past any possible rational defense. Just remember how many companies used the threat of loss of health insurance against their employees to try to affect the last election. Look how many more, like Walmart, have decided to just dump their underpaid employees onto the backs of the insured.

10 Joanne  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 12:28:11pm

Feel free to sign this White House petition should you agree with lowering the age of eligibility of Medicare.

[Link: petitions.whitehouse.gov...]


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