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1 aagcobb  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 12:45:34pm

I know Civ V is just a game, but I still fell a bit guilty about sending an Inquisitor to a newly conquered city to stamp out the Jews.

2 Destro  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 12:46:43pm

I wonder if the Greeks and Phoenicians can get their Iberian lands back?

3 alinuxguru  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 1:12:32pm

Speaking of Sephardic Jews, Yasmin Levy singing one of my favorite songs live in Jerusalem.

4 HappyWarrior  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 1:19:33pm

When I hear people say we need to be a Christian nation. I think about the Spanish Jews and Muslims who were killed for the sole crime of being that religion or in the case of the converts being converts. That's why in large part I am a strong supporter of the separation of church and state.

5 CuriousLurker  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 5:39:29pm

re: #1 aagcobb

I know Civ V is just a game, but I still fell a bit guilty about sending an Inquisitor to a newly conquered city to stamp out the Jews.

That's what video games are selling these days? That's disgusting and more than a little disturbing. I'm glad I'm not into gaming.

6 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 5:41:31pm

re: #1 aagcobb

I know Civ V is just a game, but I still fell a bit guilty about sending an Inquisitor to a newly conquered city to stamp out the Jews.

WHY DID YOU DO THAT? YOU MONSTER.

7 aagcobb  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 5:50:43pm

re: #6 Vicious Babushka

WHY DID YOU DO THAT? YOU MONSTER.

I'M SO ASHAMED!

8 Obdicut  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:00:19pm

Yeah, that's an insulting offer. I have crypto-Jews in my background. Some of them lost their religion, some didn't. I have no clue why Spain is making the citizenship offer predicated on religion.

9 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:33:50pm

re: #8 Obdicut

And on one of the two in particular. Notice they aren't given the same offer to the descendants of those Muslims forced out at the same time.

10 ಠ_ಠ  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:22:02pm

re: #5 CuriousLurker

It's a game that's basically multi-layered chess with historical figures as pieces. There's no story, it's all about gameplay. Different religions give specific bonuses to attributes like population growth, finance, and culture, and their spread can be affected in certain ways. Try not to get offended by pretty much the most inoffensive game ever.

11 Flavia  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 10:41:56pm

re: #10 ಠ_ಠ

It's a game that's basically multi-layered chess with historical figures as pieces. There's no story, it's all about gameplay. Different religions give specific bonuses to attributes like population growth, finance, and culture, and their spread can be affected in certain ways. Try not to get offended by pretty much the most inoffensive game ever.

And what if their next game is a Nazi concentration camp where you get varying points for killing Jews, Romany, dissidents and "defectives"? Still inoffensive? & if not, how is it different than this? Costuming?

12 Varek Raith  Tue, Dec 11, 2012 1:50:57am

re: #1 aagcobb

I know Civ V is just a game, but I still fell a bit guilty about sending an Inquisitor to a newly conquered city to stamp out the Jews.

What the inquisitor does is remove (or attempt to) the religion of a city. Every civ has a unit that can do the same.
Way too much overreaction to this. No offense CL.

13 Varek Raith  Tue, Dec 11, 2012 1:52:53am

re: #12 Varek Raith

What the inquisitor does is remove (or attempt to) the religion of a city. Every civ has a unit that can do the same.
Way too much overreaction to this. No offense CL.

Also, it's what the Inquisition was really all about.
Stamping out other religions.

14 Varek Raith  Tue, Dec 11, 2012 1:54:28am

re: #11 Flavia

And what if their next game is a Nazi concentration camp where you get varying points for killing Jews, Romany, dissidents and "defectives"? Still inoffensive? & if not, how is it different than this? Costuming?

What nonsense.
Sid Meier would never release such a game.

15 CuriousLurker  Tue, Dec 11, 2012 4:33:34am

re: #10 ಠ_ಠ

It's a game that's basically multi-layered chess with historical figures as pieces. There's no story, it's all about gameplay. Different religions give specific bonuses to attributes like population growth, finance, and culture, and their spread can be affected in certain ways. Try not to get offended by pretty much the most inoffensive game ever.

I get that it's just a game an that it's based on history. Call me old fashioned or whatever, but I don't like that kind of stuff. To me games are supposed to be fun—it's fine if the objective is to blow up zombies or do battle with some other imaginary monsters or aliens or whatever, but when it comes to killing cops (GTA) or reenacting horrible things done in the name of religion I no longer see it as "fun".

I don't happen to like those first-person shooter games either, even when the targets are imaginary creatures.They're just too violent & gory for me (not to mention the realism of the gore)... it's like the only point of the game is mutilation, killing & blood. I feel the same about slasher/torture type movies.

16 CuriousLurker  Tue, Dec 11, 2012 4:35:36am

re: #12 Varek Raith

What the inquisitor does is remove (or attempt to) the religion of a city. Every civ has a unit that can do the same.

See my #15, above.

Way too much overreaction to this. No offense CL.

No offense taken, I just happen to feel differently about it. You'e entitled to your opinion (even if you're obviously wrong, heh ;)).

17 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Tue, Dec 11, 2012 4:37:17am

re: #15 CuriousLurker

I get that it's just a game an that it's based on history. Call me old fashioned or whatever, but I don't like that kind of stuff. To me games are supposed to be fun—it's fine if the objective is to blow up zombies or do battle with some other imaginary monsters or aliens or whatever, but when it comes to killing cops (GTA) or reenacting horrible things done in the name of religion I no longer see it as "fun".

I don't happen to like those first-person shooter games either, even when the targets are imaginary creatures.They're just too violent & gory for me (not to mention the realism of the gore)... it's like the only point of the game is mutilation, killing & blood. I feel the same about slasher/torture type movies.

I have never played any of these games, never wanted to, but I think the "Assassin's Creed" trailer for their Revolutionary War scenario is really lame, especially with "American the Beautiful" as background music.

18 Varek Raith  Tue, Dec 11, 2012 11:02:56am

re: #16 CuriousLurker

See my #15, above.

No offense taken, I just happen to feel differently about it. You'e entitled to your opinion (even if you're obviously wrong, heh ;)).

I'm never wrong!!!
Execpt, when I am!
:)

re: #17 Vicious Babushka

I have never played any of these games, never wanted to, but I think the "Assassin's Creed" trailer for their Revolutionary War scenario is really lame, especially with "American the Beautiful" as background music.

Totally lame.


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