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1 b_sharp  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 5:59:20pm

I think I forgot to get the names of the witnesses.

Oh well, unnamed sources work for the pseudo-skeptics.

2 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 6:31:20pm

I missed the discussion about Bill Nye, but it seems he fell into a version of the trap that Richard Dawkins describes in explaining why he doesn't debate creationists.

Some time in the 1980s when I was on a visit to the United States, a television station wanted to stage a debate between me and a prominent creationist called, I think, Duane P Gish. I telephoned Stephen Gould for advice. He was friendly and decisive: "Don't do it." The point is not, he said, whether or not you would 'win' the debate. Winning is not what the creationists realistically aspire to. For them, it is sufficient that the debate happens at all. They need the publicity. We don't. To the gullible public which is their natural constituency, it is enough that their man is seen sharing a platform with a real scientist. "There must be something in creationism, or Dr So-and-So would not have agreed to debate it on equal terms." Inevitably, when you turn down the invitation you will be accused of cowardice, or of inability to defend your own beliefs. But that is better than supplying the creationists with what they crave: the oxygen of respectability in the world of real science.

3 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:21:44pm

A probable Morano supporter devastates the warmist conspiracy...lets see the "scientists" of the warming conspiracy refute this evidence!

mememine • 3 days ago

Liberalism's Iraq War of fear and lies and climate WMD's:
Belief is faith, reason is knowledge and Liberals have made us all fear mongering omen worshippers for the history books. "I see the changes……"
Climate Blame wasn't science, it was a liberal virtue, and a tragic exaggeration and George Bush laughed as we fear mongered billions of helpless children to the greenhouse gas ovens for 26 years of needless CO2 panic. Nice job girls.
For a quarter of a century the lab coats said we could be at the point of no return from a crisis that they never said "WILL" or "would" happen, only "might" happen. NOT ONE single IPCC warning was without maybes. Prove me wrong! Help my house could be on fire maybe?
Undeniable proof of science's exaggeration is the fact that the millions in the global scientific community sit on their hands and watch dozens of climate change protesters worldwide. Some crisis eh?
*Occupywallstreet does not even mention CO2 in its list of demands because of the bank-funded carbon trading stock markets ruled by corporations and trustworthy politicians
*Canada killed Y2Kyoto with a freely elected climate change denying prime minister and nobody cared, especially the millions of scientists warning us of unstoppable warming (a comet hit).ding stock markets run by corporations.
*Obama has not mentioned the crisis in the last two State of the Unions addresses.
*In all of the debates Obama hadn't planned to mention climate change once.
To you remaining fear mongers; none of you spineless climate cowards would still be shooting your mouths off like this still if there were real legal consequences in a real civilized society for issuing your CO2 death threats from your Reefer Madness of climate blame.
A crisis that isn't a crisis isn't a crisis and save the little catastrophic climate crisis for your Harry Potter movies at the next lib convention.
[Link: mediamatters.org...]

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4 Michael5MacKay  Mon, Dec 10, 2012 8:35:31pm

FYI. The debate technique of throwing out a multitude of false statements faster than they can be refuted is called the "Gish Gallop" after creationist Duane Gish.

5 Jimmah  Tue, Dec 11, 2012 2:36:48am

You can fluster someone with volume and blatant dishonesty, sure, but you certainly can't outclass them.

However, I didn't feel that Nye was either here - you could see his patience wearing thin, but he still got the facts across pretty well despite Morano's moronic jibber-jabber.

6 Randall Gross  Tue, Dec 11, 2012 3:35:14am

The Dunning Kruger effects devastating effects explained:

7 KiTA  Tue, Dec 11, 2012 6:46:27am

Yikes, so the Climate Denial nutters have started using the Gish Gallop on people? Hopefully someone will clue Bill Nye in on how to fight it next time.

8 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Dec 11, 2012 10:26:04am

Well done parody, b_sharp. You should submit it to the Onion.


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