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1 researchok  Wed, Dec 12, 2012 11:40:21am

The 1% is bigger than we thought.

2 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 12, 2012 11:49:14am

The prison guard union also led the charge to defeat marijuana reform in California. Apparently imprisoning pot-heads was calculated to be a major factor in sustaining job security. Otoh, letting them run loose might have saved the jobs of those Hostess workers.

3 Locker  Wed, Dec 12, 2012 1:20:49pm

I'm sorry but this article is inflammatory bullshit. Case in point:

Today, the state’s highest-paid employees make far more than comparable workers elsewhere in almost all job and wage categories, from public safety to health care, base pay to overtime.

So how the fuck do you say "highest-paid employees" then in the SAME SENTENCE say "comparable workers elsewhere in almost all job and wage categories".

Hey fuckheads "highest-paid employees" and "all job and wage categories" are mutually exclusive. So are the authors, the union trashers and public employee haters trying to make you think all state employees make more than their private counterparts? You betcha.

Is it true? Not by a long, long, LONG way. Example, Programmers, DBAs, Network Engineers and other IT classifications make about half to 2/3 of what an employee in the private sector makes for the same job.

Additionally, we've never had a cost of living increase as prescribed in our contract and rather have had to put up with 4 years of furloughs and wage reductions. Top it off by the fact that our pension funds is the most well funded in the country and it all adds up to the usual script, blame "greedy" public employees. The same employees who have to pay for everything themselves from parking in the same building they work (90 bucks a month) to fund raising for break room refrigerators (yes we had to buy them ourselves).

Pay giveaway my ass.

P.S. The number one cause of wasted money by the State of California? Private.. fucking... contractors.

4 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 12, 2012 2:06:20pm

re: #3 Locker

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

The jockeying between agencies for the same doctors demonstrates a payroll system run amok and chronic mismanagement, said Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, senior associate dean at the Yale University School of Management and founder of a training institute for chief executive officers.

“Even though this all took place in California, such apparent recklessness is almost too over the top for Hollywood,” Sonnenfeld said. “These irresponsible public officials have artificially constrained the market with an unnaturally limited supply pool, either due to laziness, incompetence, corruption or all of the above.”

The new monies from Prop 30 in the first couple yearsare not going to schools and classrooms as we were told. Those monies are going to replenish the teacher pension fund.

Private Contractors? Not looking like these things are mutually exclusive. I bet we do over pay private contractors. Just like some employees. State funded 1%ers.

5 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 12, 2012 2:07:56pm

re: #3 Locker

Fuckheads? Stay classy Locker.

I believe you when you say you are getting underpaid. What if it's mismanagement much like what has been pointed out here?

6 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 12, 2012 3:12:05pm

re: #5 Political Atheist

Fuckheads? Stay classy Locker.

I believe you when you say you are getting underpaid. What if it's mismanagement much like what has been pointed out here?

It's still easily to just rage against your preferred malefactor. Rooting out mismanagement is long, time-consuming, and because the critical work involved has no excitement to it, its largely thankless. That's why legislators confronted with evidence of chronic mismanagement either hew and haw or rant and rave: Because trying to address the problem directly doesn't win votes because it isn't visible enough.


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