Pages

Jump to bottom

2 comments

1 lostlakehiker  Thu, Dec 13, 2012 4:28:23pm

At some point, occupation becomes conquest and incorporation.

Alsace is not German territory currently occupied by France. It's French now, because France won WW1, and France's allies won WW2.

Kaliningrad is not Koenigsberg and is not occupied territory. The people who used to live in the city were driven out by the victorious Soviet army. A new people were moved in to take their place, and the city and its surroundings incorporated into the Soviet Union, and then, Russia.

Tibet is not an independent nation that, for the time being, is occupied by China. Tibet is part of the People's Republic of China, by right of conquest. The People's Liberation Army marched in and took control, and that was that. Since then, China has moved to relocate a population of Han Chinese to Tibet, but the project has had limited success. It seems that there are biological limits to the tolerance of the average Han Chinese for altitude, limits that do not apply to most Tibetans. So Tibetans keep their land, demographically. The Han cannot live comfortably on most of it.

And while we're at it, New York City is not occupied territory, the rightful property of the Manhattan tribe. That's all history. By war, by fraud, by purchase, etc., the Dutch took it from the Indians, the English took it from the Dutch, and now it's home to millions of people, most of them not members of the Manhattan tribe. They all have valid title to their land. It's not "occupied".

2 Buck  Fri, Dec 14, 2012 10:38:47am

And the "West Bank" is not "occupied".

The Allies won in WW1 and the title and deed was taken from the Ottoman Empire and returned to the Jews by the same people who (at the same time) gave land to create Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Jordan. The Arabs in the area were consulted and the largest part of the land was given to them.

No one thinks of Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Jordan as occupied.

"From the River to the Sea" was returned to the Jews and their historical connection to that land was acknowledged.

Ratified by the Allied Powers at the San Remo conference and passed by a majority of countries in the League of Nations, adopted by the US through the Anglo-American Convention, accepted in full by the United Nations when it was created.

They all have valid title to their land. It's not "occupied".


This page has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2016-01-01 10:29 am PST
LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Recent PagesClick to refresh
Samsung Smart Home Flaws Let Hackers Make Keys to Front Door IoT is here, it's unstoppable - but manufacturers have got to drop their cavalier attitudes towards securing smart devices. Computer scientists have discovered vulnerabilities in Samsung's Smart Home automation system that allowed them to carry out a host of ...
Thanos
5 hours, 56 minutes ago
Views: 149 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 4 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 1
Likes: 1
Comments: 1
: 3
Paul McCartney, Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Rolling Stones, the Who, and Roger Waters Announce Concert in October. ob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, Neil Young, Paul McCartney, the Who, and Pink Floyd’s Roger Waters will perform on the same billing for the first time ever in October, according to The LA Times. Who is responsible for bringing ...
Thanos
11 hours, 30 minutes ago
Views: 220 • Comments: 2 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 3 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Congressmen Think FCC’s Set-Top Box Plan Is Just Like “Popcorn Time” House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) and ranking Democrat John Conyers (D-Mich.) described their concerns in a letter to FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler Thursday, as noted by Politico. The letter echoes arguments made by cable lobbyists and some ...
Thanos
14 hours, 38 minutes ago
Views: 274 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 2 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
NRA Fired Up Over Military Gun Ban, Too Darn Bad IMHO As if the Pentagon or Joint Chiefs should not be the experts to review this? I don't recall any clamor from the military leadership or those serving over this. The gun accident rate among trained supervised professionals is pretty ...
Great White Snark
15 hours, 5 minutes ago
Views: 431 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 30 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Why the NRA Hates Smart GunsJon Stokes isn't a 'gun guy' but he understand this issue. He skillfully uses the "Assault Weapons" Ban Bill and Hillary Clinton supported in 1994 to make his case in the middle of the article, but I'm going to excerpt ...
Dark_Falcon
2 days, 4 hours ago
Views: 603 • Comments: 12 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 0 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Daniel J. Berrigan, Defiant Priest Who Preached Pacifism, Dies at 94When I was younger I wasn't quite a full metal wingnut but I was close when it came to matters military; and during those days Father Berrigan was in the opposing camp. However even then I recognized that he was ...
Thanos
2 days, 7 hours ago
Views: 380 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 1 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Marcus Miller - Metropole Orkest - Edison Jazz/World Awards 2013 Eindhoven 2013 - Optreden van Marcus Miller en het Metropole Orkest tijdens de uitreiking van de Edison Jazz/World Awards 2013 in het Muziekcentrum Frits Philips. Het orkest staat onder leiding van Daniel Jamieson. Eindhoven 2013 - Performance of Marcus ...
Thanos
2 days, 11 hours ago
Views: 621 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 1 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Pop Goes the Digital Media Bubble Warning: this leads into the latest Mother Jones begathon, however there are salient facts regarding the state of journalism and digital advertising today before you get there. Look at it this way: A reporter doing even modestly original work ...
Thanos
2 days, 18 hours ago
Views: 771 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 0 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Nvidia GPU-Powered Autonomous Car Teaches Itself to See and Steer During the past nine months, an Nvidia engineering team built a self-driving car with one camera, one Drive-PX embedded computer and only 72 hours of training data. Nvidia published an academic preprint of the results of the DAVE2 project ...
Thanos
2 days, 19 hours ago
Views: 844 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 1 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
How to Set Up Your Newsroom to Find Breaking News on Social Media | To cover news through social media right it takes a team and some tools. He recommended a three-person team to cover the key platforms on which reports and footage emerge: one person looking for material on Twitter, one on ...
Thanos
2 days, 21 hours ago
Views: 804 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 2 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Likes: 0
Comments: 0
: 0