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1 Destro  Thu, Dec 13, 2012 1:46:45pm

I would like to know where the occurrences of these hate crimes against Jews happen on a red vs blue state basis. Maybe that explains why Jewish people don't vote Republican?

2 Timmeh  Thu, Dec 13, 2012 3:00:15pm

How many of the hate crimes are serious ones like murder and assault, and how many are minor like vandalism?

3 Flavia  Thu, Dec 13, 2012 3:11:03pm

I didn't realize the numbers were this overwhelming.

4 Timmeh  Thu, Dec 13, 2012 3:11:32pm
5 RadicalModerate  Thu, Dec 13, 2012 4:01:02pm

I am curious about one aspect of the FBI report cited here.

Are the hate-crime figures computed from total crimes committed, or only from victim-reported crimes? The reason I ask this is because there might be a significant skewing of figures due to the fact that there is a serious issue within the African-American community of not reporting crimes committed against them, due to a rather widespread (and in many cases, justified) distrust of law enforcement. The same could likely be said - to a lesser extent - about members of the Muslim faith as well (particularly those from the Mideast)

6 Etaoin Shrdlu  Thu, Dec 13, 2012 4:08:33pm

And how many of them are really anti-Jewish hate crimes, rather than merely anti-Zionist hate crimes?

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7 Obdicut  Thu, Dec 13, 2012 4:09:31pm

re: #1 Destro

Jewish people tend to vote Democratic because of the tradition of charity, forbearance, and laxity in the law in Jewish tradition, and because Jews have a strong intellectual tradition and the GOP is the anti-science party.

8 kirkspencer  Thu, Dec 13, 2012 6:47:28pm

This article annoys me, both for misreporting the numbers and, well, just a minute. First, the report is here. The article uses table 1 for its numbers.

While there were 6222 incidents, there were not 1,480 anti-religious incidents. The article changed column to number of victims instead. The actual number of anti-religious incidents was 1,233, of which 771 (not 711) were anti-Jewish incidents.

The part that annoys me is how the article's careful accuracy leads to the implication anti-Jewish numbers are the biggest deal. They're not. The article is literally correct that they're the largest anti-religious case.

The racial category itself formed almost half the total hate crime incidents in 2011 with 2,917 incidents. Of these 2,076 anti-black incidents.

One last kicker. There were more hate crimes based on sexual orientation than there were on religion. And just anti-male homosexual came very close to topping the incidents against jews with 760 incidents. Given that there were another 359 incidents where gender wasn't included this number may actually be higher.

Anti-Semitism is bad. But if you're going to report it, report it accurately - and don't imply it's the worst when it isn't.

9 Destro  Thu, Dec 13, 2012 8:32:38pm

re: #7 Obdicut

And just like the GOP gains votes based on values that seem to appeal to former Confederate States by chance I am sure. I would like to see the overlap of where these incidents happen.

10 Destro  Thu, Dec 13, 2012 8:36:09pm

re: #8 kirkspencer

I don't know why you were downdinged for your statement.

11 Skandal  Fri, Dec 14, 2012 8:13:03am

"don't imply it's the worst when it isn't.
The article references only Religiously Motivated Hate Crimes and anti-Semitic crimes are the worst in that category. The implication kirkspencer claims is non-existent.


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