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1 Destro  Sat, Dec 15, 2012 11:10:10am

Thank you this. This is true and I used to get flak for saying it. People in the mainstream are seeing what I have been seeing (and I am not saying that to pat myself on the back - I have been seeing these realities based on comments and observations of others which I had to ponder and eventually accept).

2 Laughing Gas  Sat, Dec 15, 2012 11:44:35am

Also, guns are a macho accessory for these men; it reinforces their masculine self image.

3 Jaerik  Sat, Dec 15, 2012 12:40:57pm

re: #2 Laughing Gas

Also, guns are a macho accessory for these men; it reinforces their masculine self image.

Which I never understood, either. To me, the more defenseless the target, and the more over-the-top technological advantage you use to kill it at no danger to yourself, the less bad-ass the overall endeavor.

4 majii  Sat, Dec 15, 2012 1:01:27pm

I ran into some of these folks week before last when I was renewing my driver's license here in GA. She and her friend kept saying that,"We need to take our nation back!" I, being of the Black American tribe (LOL,) asked her, "From whom do you want to take your country back?" None of them answered my question. Yes, there seems to be some paranoia and fear in a certain segment of our population among people who actually believe that some of us want to "take" something from them. Whatever it is, I've still to find out. During the course of our conversation, one of the women said that she's having problems paying her bills, and she's very angry about it. She looked at me as if I had two heads when I told her I was a retired teacher who pays for her own health insurance, owns a home, and has no problems paying her bills. I think she and her friend automatically placed me in the "takers" category at first sight. Many of these folks take one look at certain people in our society and immediately conclude that we're hellbent on taking something away from them or in gaming the system, when that's not what is on our minds at all. All we want are the same things they want--an opportunity for a decent job, a home, the ability to send our kids to college, etc. Neither of these young women seemed to have ever entertained the idea that my race doesn't make me an automatic threat to them, but somehow, Fox News, RW politicians, pundits, and radio entertainers have brainwashed them into thinking it is true. A lot of Georgians live in fear and their solution for it is to arm themselves to the teeth and wait on the race war to begin. Little do they know that it's not likely to happen, or that the government has no plans to place them in FEMA camps. They have no idea that their fears are being exploited for profit by the NRA, gun manufacturers, and others on the right, and imo, these groups/persons are the real threat to our nation.

5 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Dec 15, 2012 2:05:34pm

This is very similar in many respects to the conclusions I've reached, as described in this post this morning.
I peeled another layer from the onion of denial though, and concluded that the choice of arms indicates not just a desire to stop the hordes of "others," but to exterminate them completely.

6 lostlakehiker  Sat, Dec 15, 2012 5:43:33pm

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel

This is very similar in many respects to the conclusions I've reached, as described in this post this morning.
I peeled another layer from the onion of denial though, and concluded that the choice of arms indicates not just a desire to stop the hordes of "others," but to exterminate them completely.

That's a wild misreading of the mindset of the average gun owner. Do you realize what you're saying? There are something like 300 million firearms in this country. At least 50 million owners. The gun murder rate is roughly 11000 a year, and many of those are murders that stem from a gang war or a domestic dispute, and so are very unlikely to be white-on-black. Looking at the actions of these scores of millions of gun owners, there is no sign of any designs for genocide.

7 Randall Gross  Sat, Dec 15, 2012 7:07:54pm

re: #6 lostlakehiker

You are kind of missing the point. Why do 50 million gun owners need an average of 6 guns each if they don't have a certain paranoid nightmare fantasies or delusions? It doesn't necessarily mean that they are all acting on those delusions.

8 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Dec 15, 2012 7:59:25pm

re: #6 lostlakehiker

That's a wild misreading of the mindset of the average gun owner. Do you realize what you're saying? There are something like 300 million firearms in this country. At least 50 million owners. The gun murder rate is roughly 11000 a year, and many of those are murders that stem from a gang war or a domestic dispute, and so are very unlikely to be white-on-black. Looking at the actions of these scores of millions of gun owners, there is no sign of any designs for genocide.

For crying out loud. I didn't say this was happening as we speak, nor did I generalize to all the gun owners in the country. Very few of those to whom I did refer, the radical survivalists and paranoids, ever use their guns at all. Their demands, and their insistence on this kind of preparation, are what drive the wide-spread availability of the types of guns the mass shooters seem to prefer. I talk to a lot of these people about how they perceive their needs. All but the terminally stupid and illiterate will admit that the UN occupation/anti-tyranny case is a smokescreen. What they really fear, or perhaps hope for, is the LA riots or their imaginary version of Hurricane Katrina on a gigantic scale. What IS the AR or the Bushmaster for as a survival tool if not this?

9 lostlakehiker  Sun, Dec 16, 2012 6:48:02am

re: #8 Shiplord Kirel

For crying out loud. I didn't say this was happening as we speak, nor did I generalize to all the gun owners in the country. Very few of those to whom I did refer, the radical survivalists and paranoids, ever use their guns at all. Their demands, and their insistence on this kind of preparation, are what drive the wide-spread availability of the types of guns the mass shooters seem to prefer. I talk to a lot of these people about how they perceive their needs. All but the terminally stupid and illiterate will admit that the UN occupation/anti-tyranny case is a smokescreen. What they really fear, or perhaps hope for, is the LA riots or their imaginary version of Hurricane Katrina on a gigantic scale. What IS the AR or the Bushmaster for as a survival tool if not this?

There's a huge difference between fearing further LA type riots, which is an ill-founded fear but not entirely impossible, and intending genocide.

As we saw in the London riots a while back, there can be situations where a considerable mass of people go on looting sprees, and without firearms, all the lootees can do is kiss their homes and businesses goodbye.

How can you equate a determination to defend home and livelihood, and a suspicion that what has been on the news before may be on it again, with an intent to commit genocide?

10 Kronocide  Sun, Dec 16, 2012 8:47:33am

You're missing the point. A small paranoid racist vocal minority helps drive the greater herd of gun lovers.


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