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1 lostlakehiker  Tue, Dec 18, 2012 8:55:52am

What leaves me bemused is the Democrats' complicity in gerrymandering minorities into safe, but vote-wasting, districts.

It would make for more Democrats in the House if the Democrats would push for competitive districts, instead of pushing for minority-safe districts.

In the board game "go", a style of play that over-insures territories that are already more likely than not to go to the player is called "heavy". The result of heavy play is that the player gets all the territory he overinsures, and not much of the rest. And loses. And that is what is happening now in the House. Republicans, with fewer votes overall, carry more house seats because the way the districts are drawn tends to create wastefully certain Democrat districts. And this is not done over the vehement objections of Democrats. It's done with their cooperation and blessing.

This has the further unfortunate consequence that Republicans misunderstand the weakness and fragility of their standing as a national party with a nationally attractive message. So long as they win in the House, for that long will they be deaf to the voices calling for reform in their platform and doctrine.

2 TDG2112  Tue, Dec 18, 2012 9:24:04am

When I first read this I was a little alarmed. But it just occurred to me this is not going to help Republicans at all. What states are going to do this? The ones that vote Republican. So, let these states do it and they will dilute their votes further. For example, if Texas does this, suddenly Texas will be giving some votes to Democrats, while California will just send all its votes to Dems. Then there really would be NO WAY Republicans could win the White house.

At that point there might be a movement to amend the Constitution, and then it can be maneuvered to make it a Popular vote instead. I think this would be great and would get candidates to campaign outside the swing states finally. Having National dialogues instead of only local ones centered around "swing states" might actually be beneficial to the country.

3 EPR-radar  Tue, Dec 18, 2012 4:04:02pm

re: #2 TDG2112

When I first read this I was a little alarmed. But it just occurred to me this is not going to help Republicans at all. What states are going to do this? The ones that vote Republican. So, let these states do it and they will dilute their votes further. For example, if Texas does this, suddenly Texas will be giving some votes to Democrats, while California will just send all its votes to Dems. Then there really would be NO WAY Republicans could win the White house.

At that point there might be a movement to amend the Constitution, and then it can be maneuvered to make it a Popular vote instead. I think this would be great and would get candidates to campaign outside the swing states finally. Having National dialogues instead of only local ones centered around "swing states" might actually be beneficial to the country.

This can help the Republicans if there are presidential election blue states that are under total Republican rule at the state level. E.g., PA, MI, WI. Of course the Republicans aren't going to let TX go proportional, and the Democrats wouldn't let CA go proportional.

However, there are fools in the rust belt that have split tickets and voted for Republicans at the state level, and this kind of abuse may be their reward. Reason #1001 to not vote for a Republican for any office, anywhere, at any time, unless one is a Republican true believer.


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