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1 leftynyc  Mon, Dec 17, 2012 1:23:46pm

Are people fleeing north to south or leaving the country all together? Where the hell is the UN?

2 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 17, 2012 4:07:45pm

re: #1 leftynyc

Are people fleeing north to south or leaving the country all together? Where the hell is the UN?

Some are fleeing south, some are leaving Mali entirely. The UN isn't willing to go in until the government and army of Mali have their acts together.

3 ProMayaLiberal  Mon, Dec 17, 2012 4:07:46pm

Saw your message.

Unfortunately, Mali is screwed. Radicals on one side, and a bunch of inept, power-hungry military officers on the other.

The UN isn't getting involved, because no-one wants to take a risk. At some point, the concerned citizens of the US and Western Europe need to start pushing our governments. This is history repeating itself. This is what happened in Afghanistan starting about 20 years ago. That eventually led to 9/11.

Ounce of protection to prevent a pound of pain?

4 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Dec 17, 2012 6:35:00pm

re: #3 ProMayaLiberal

Saw your message.

Unfortunately, Mali is screwed. Radicals on one side, and a bunch of inept, power-hungry military officers on the other.

The UN isn't getting involved, because no-one wants to take a risk. At some point, the concerned citizens of the US and Western Europe need to start pushing our governments. This is history repeating itself. This is what happened in Afghanistan starting about 20 years ago. That eventually led to 9/11.

Ounce of protection to prevent a pound of pain?

The problem is that the only thing outside intervention can ever do is to buy time for local or national governments to undo the political mistakes that led to the violence. Unfortunately as you've pointed out, the government and army of Mali aren't interested in fixing their mistakes. They seem to just want to graft off aid money sent to feed refugees. In such a climate, intervention cannot succeed. Outside pressure can't solve this problem, Mali must solve this problem itself.


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