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1 Bulworth  Tue, Dec 18, 2012 8:11:23am

So I think this what we have learned over the past year or so about RWNJ logic: Although we have no evidence, we know that voter fraud is a huge problem, so the right to vote, which isn't really a right but only a privilege, can and should be heavily regulated, even if such regulation prevents Americans from voting. Gun manufacture, and gun ownership, however, can never, ever be regulated or restricted, no matter how many people, adults or children are killed, which is never really the fault of guns anyway.

2 Skip Intro  Tue, Dec 18, 2012 8:33:35am
Mass Shootings Are on the Rise—and 2012 Has Been Deadlier Than Ever Before

In the RWNJ world, this is because people don't have enough guns. We'll just ignore the fact that the first Newton victim had five.

What we need to do is make sure that schools become armories, that people are allowed concealed carry everywhere they go, and that anyone can buy any weapon so long as they can afford it.

Screw background checks and mental health checks. I don't see that mentioned anywhere in the 2nd Amendment. We need to remove all restrictions on gun ownership; that's the only way to bring gun crime down.

3 lostlakehiker  Tue, Dec 18, 2012 8:46:17am

re: #2 Skip Intro

In the RWNJ world, this is because people don't have enough guns. We'll just ignore the fact that the first Newton victim had five.

What we need to do is make sure that schools become armories, that people are allowed concealed carry everywhere they go, and that anyone can buy any weapon so long as they can afford it.

Screw background checks and mental health checks. I don't see that mentioned anywhere in the 2nd Amendment. We need to remove all restrictions on gun ownership; that's the only way to bring gun crime down.

So you're saying that conservatives think mental health problems are not part of the story of rampage shootings, and oppose steps to limit gun ownership to people who don't appear to be insane or verging on it?

4 Destro  Tue, Dec 18, 2012 8:46:32am

re: #2 Skip Intro

Screw background checks and mental health checks. I don't see that mentioned anywhere in the 2nd Amendment. We need to remove all restrictions on gun ownership; that's the only way to bring gun crime down.


Brings a whole new meaning to the term "yelling FIRE! in a crowded theater".

5 Destro  Tue, Dec 18, 2012 8:48:28am

re: #3 lostlakehiker

So you're saying that conservatives think mental health problems are not part of the story of rampage shootings, and oppose steps to limit gun ownership to people who don't appear to be insane or verging on it?

I will say that because judging by right wing call ins on the radio they A) Think psychiatry is of the devil or B) that the drugs (aka medication) is to blame and that there is a liberal science plot to pollute our precious bodily fluids.

6 Skip Intro  Tue, Dec 18, 2012 10:23:27am

re: #3 lostlakehiker

So you're saying that conservatives think mental health problems are not part of the story of rampage shootings, and oppose steps to limit gun ownership to people who don't appear to be insane or verging on it?

My term was RWNJ. If that means conservative to you, then yes, that's exactly what I mean.

7 Kdizzle  Tue, Dec 18, 2012 11:36:18am

re: #3 lostlakehiker

Where have you been the last thirty fucking years?

Of course that's what he is saying, and its completely rooted in reality.

What evidence do you have to present that shows that the American Conservative establishment gives a shit about this?

And no just because you care about it doesn't mean anything if it isn't a common attribute to the larger conservative population.


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