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1 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 19, 2012 2:10:26pm

This looks really smart. I like it. Well said.

2 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Dec 19, 2012 2:21:20pm

I'm working on a draft letter that I'm going to mail to the VP since he's the one drafting the administrations proposals. Nothing ventured nothing gained and all that. Would you help by reviewing the draft?

3 Tim Nadeau  Wed, Dec 19, 2012 2:55:07pm

That is a well thought out piece and I congratulate you. As a gun owner and one who's last purchase was a deer rifle for my grandson, I'm appalled at the military like weapons available. Let's hope that reason prevails in this coming debate.

4 sundude  Wed, Dec 19, 2012 3:28:14pm

Very good. Think restricting this to 'semi-automatic' is leaving an unintended loophole tho. Pump and wheel guns of greater than 10 round capacity exist today. With those in mind you may want to reword your 'a' a bit.

5 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 9:26:51am

I'm still concerned about the sheer number of firearms out there. Is there some logic in including language regulating ammo?

I am beginning to understand that although the cosmetics are secondary to the effectiveness of the firearm, the immature and testosterone driven seem to be drawn to the "military style-ugly". I dont know how that is shown in the "guns used in crime" stats. Is any of the cosmetic features necessary or helpful in shooting sports or sporting?

6 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Dec 22, 2012 12:56:15am

Good page.

Is high capacity defined by the capacity to accept a >10 mag or the actual possession of such a magazine? I think it has to be the former because magazines aren't serialized, so we're talking about basically all semi-auto's except for internal magazine guns with a fixed lower capacity like the M1 Garand. It's also important to define this concretely by firearm model because it's not very difficult to weld two magazines together and create a high capacity franken-mag. You don't want a situation to occur where a gun that had no hi-cap mags available at the time the law was passed comes under the law some time later simply because somebody invents a high capacity magazine for it.

I'd personally also exempt semi-auto rimfire plinkers like the Browning SA 22 that only exceed the 10 round limit when specifically chambered for .22, short where the capacity rises to 12 because shorts take up less space in the tubular magazine. An extra 50 bucks and paperwork isn't a big deal for guns like the Ruger 10/22, but I'd be against seeing such a popular rimfire plinking platform banned in certain states just because it fell under NFA status and required a Form 1.

I'd also go further and regulate ultra compact pistols and revolvers regardless of their capacity. Ultra compacts being defined as being less than 6.75 inches in length or less than 4.5 inches in height, measured with the magazine detached. The City of Los Angeles has such a law banning the sale, but not possession of these guns. I'd require such guns to be registered fall under the same $50 NFA tax stamp and application regulation to transfer. Even though these small guns are not assault weapons and aren't associated with the high body count mass killing incidents, they're the ones used in the majority of gun crime.

7 Obdicut  Sat, Dec 22, 2012 4:21:16am

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

I absolutely agree with the dangers of the small, concealable handguns. Concealability is at least as indicative of potential lethality as the number of rounds the gun can carry.

8 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Dec 22, 2012 11:53:35am

re: #6 goddamnedfrank

I attempted to answer some of these questions in the letter I did finally send the other day. It's here:


Short version, it's based on the rifle but as long as you don't own the magazines you don't have to register it. This is based on how full auto kits are handled now by ATF.

9 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Dec 22, 2012 11:55:22am

re: #5 Holidays are Family Fun Time

I'm still concerned about the sheer number of firearms out there. Is there some logic in including language regulating ammo?

No because it would quickly become a back door ban and be, legitimately, tossed by SCOTUS.

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