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1 Aligarr  Fri, Dec 21, 2012 9:11:01pm

Hey , i could wear sneakers and jeans , grow a beard , never be seen in a buisiness suit and have a 9million euro yacht You know keep a low profile.I could even be a philanthropist and give away 20 or 30 milln , as long as i had another 50 or 60 in the bank .

2 EPR-radar  Fri, Dec 21, 2012 9:16:35pm

Jobs was rightly perceived as an asshole in the business world. He wanted to get stuff done, and wasn't diplomatic about how.

However, Jobs was not a class warrior working to grind all others into dust, like Romney and much of the GOP establishment.

That's where the "envy" argument so loved by wingers falls apart. People of normal means tend to despise class warriors like Romney.

If someone is very well off but not a class warrior, like Jobs, relatively few will despise him for his wealth.

3 Destro  Sat, Dec 22, 2012 12:33:07am

re: #2 EPR-radar

Jobs was rightly perceived as an asshole in the business world. He wanted to get stuff done, and wasn't diplomatic about how.

However, Jobs was not a class warrior working to grind all others into dust, like Romney and much of the GOP establishment.

That's where the "envy" argument so loved by wingers falls apart. People of normal means tend to despise class warriors like Romney.

If someone is very well off but not a class warrior, like Jobs, relatively few will despise him for his wealth.

I think Jobs was at best a jerk and at worst a sociopath.

4 Skip Intro  Sat, Dec 22, 2012 11:45:22am

re: #3 Destro

I think Jobs was at best a jerk and at worst a sociopath.

I always liked Woz more. A real down to earth guy who loves what he does. He could never have run Apple, but I'll always think of him as the guy who created the company. Jobs was always just a salesman, and one hell of an asshole. He did have the vision thing though, something that Apple has totally lost now.

5 Destro  Sat, Dec 22, 2012 12:03:40pm

re: #4 Skip Intro

I don't doubt Job's vision. Because of him we can kind of imagine what the jet pack future we were promised was supposed to look like at least.


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