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1 Buck  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 6:38:27am

So the Senate and the President have no responsibility here what so ever?

Seems impossible to me that so many can be so partisan blind, but here it is.

2 Joanne  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 7:53:43am

re: #1 Buck

So the Senate and the President have no responsibility here what so ever?

Seems impossible to me that so many can be so partisan blind, but here it is.

The only one who is blind is you.

Section. 7 (of the US Constitution).

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

The House, and John Boehner especially, are skirting their duty, as provided and expected by the Constitution of the United States of America.

The President does NOT propose revenue bills. The Senate MAY propose bills, but bills for raising revenue is supposed to come from the House.

Yes indeed, some people are so very partisan blind. But it ain't us.

3 stabby  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 10:41:14am

The Republicans can do simple math and figure out how many votes they're blowing with this.

It's gonna ring hollow next time they say "jobs" to those people they cut off.

4 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 11:33:22am

Look. The poor are sinners. The unemployed are judged by the priests to not be faithful enough. If they obeyed the faith, if they were grateful for the beneficence of the priests, that is longer hours and less pay so the employed can indulge more in the holy ritual known as 'work', then they would not be unemployed. If they hadn't sinned they would still be working.

Sinners should not be rewarded for sinning. They should get on their knees and beg the priests for a job, any job no matter what conditions and pay. Then they would be allowed back into the faith and they could worship forever. Or the end of their lives which will come much sooner as slaves rarely live long.

/// because if I didn't laugh I'd cry.

5 Buck  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 3:46:25pm

re: #2 Joanne

The President has said that he wants a balanced approach.

So far he has only made speeches about the cuts.

Have you seen anything from the CBO rating the cuts that the president has put forward?

Why not?

Because there is nothing about cuts in writing. And why is that?

Because the cuts he is talking about are not real.

Basically they are cuts to future spending. A bit like buying a Ferrari and figuring that the money will come from the Rolls Royce that you are going to skip buying.

6 Joanne  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 7:44:07pm

re: #5 Buck

See my #2. It's not his job.

7 Kdizzle  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 9:45:41pm

re: #5 Buck

Why the fuck do you even care about this?

8 KiTA  Sat, Dec 29, 2012 10:02:25am

re: #7 Kdizzle

Why the fuck do you even care about this?

Because you know that false equivilancy thing that goes on in the media, mostly due to Faux News's influence?

"It's ok that the Republicans are slime, all politicians are! The Democrats do it too! It's not a scandal because a Liberal did something not-the-same-at-all 20 years ago!"

That's a HUUUUGE security blanket to some people. To the point that if they see a train coming, their instincts aren't to demand Boehner let them get off the tracks, but to put the blanket over their head and chant "it's their fault too" over and over again.

We have GOT to see a shakeup in 2014. And the Democrats need to start undoing this gerrymandering as soon as they are able to.

9 Kdizzle  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:22:20pm

re: #5 Buck

re: #5 Buck

All thats left I guess in for you to renounce your Canadian citizenship. Forfeiting your rights to universal healthcare, a living wage, and other world leading labor rights that your country is known for. And then relying on the American system of for profit medical care which is trending to the point where most employers aren't even offering it anymore to their employees, barely survivable level wages, and the right to work laws that my country is known for.

But you are probably just a big fucking hypocrite happy to use the same services that you demand the American people never be able to experience. Is this dislike of Barack Obama pretty prevalent in the Canadian Conservative Party? I have my doubts. Seeing as Canada hasn't turned into the optimism sucking shit hole thanks to a largely gerrymander emboldened group of nihilists doing everything in their power to make sure our people suffer to the highest extent possible for having the gall to elect a man that thinks maybe a wealthy man should pay a slightly higher rate on his taxes than the same person manning the cash register at Micky D's or Wal-Mart.

Seriously this weird sado-masochistic desire you have for an American Sociopathic Conservatism coming to bat in Canada is fascinating. Terrifying as well.

10 Joanne  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 6:59:20pm

re: #9 Kdizzle

Thankfully, as a newly landed Canadian, selfish assholes like Buck are in such a minority they're virtually non-existent. Thank the heavens!

11 Interesting Times  Sun, Dec 30, 2012 7:08:08pm

re: #10 Joanne

Thankfully, as a newly landed Canadian, selfish assholes like Buck are in such a minority they're virtually non-existent.

Except for the helmet-haired horror named Stephen Harper who currently occupies the post of Prime Minister :( By far the most dangerous and destructive we've ever had. He's frequently bragged that we "won't recognize Canada" once he's done with it. I can only hope the damage he's doing to us won't end up being irreversible.

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