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1 hellosnackbar  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 2:29:17pm

I believe that despite democratic elections ,Egyptians will become victims of
of their own poor decision .

2 BishopX  Fri, Dec 28, 2012 3:07:31pm

No first round constitution is perfect....The real question is how they handle the transfer of power and concept of a loyal opposition. Everything else can change.

3 SidewaysQuark  Sat, Dec 29, 2012 9:09:54am

re: #1 hellosnackbar

I believe that despite democratic elections ,Egyptians will become victims of
of their own poor decision .

Or because of democratic elections?

I'm not suggesting keeping a U.S.-backed (or ANY) dictatorship, only that this isn't a major surprise to anyone who's been paying attention. I think Egypt will evolve, but it looks like it will be long and painful. I doubt we will live to see a democratic Egyptian nation that is "free" in the secular sense.

4 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 29, 2012 9:43:52am

re: #3 SidewaysQuark

No surprise at all. There were no reformists in sight at the time of the election. It was either the old Mubarak government or the terrorist organization of the Muslim Brotherhood.

I don't know if the Egyptians will evolve. They first need to grasp the concept of a democratically elected republic. They have to accept secularism, which doesn't mean abandoning Islam (see Turkey where 99% of the population is Muslim). It just means keeping Islamic law out of government. Without a secular constitution that grants rights to all people, they will fail and the people will suffer. And worse, they will continue to sacrifice themselves via Revolution for nothing.

5 What, me worry?  Sat, Dec 29, 2012 9:57:28am

Oh yea, this is going to work out soooo nicely.

[Link: www.dailystar.com.lb...]

New Egypt warms up to Hezbollah: ambassador

BEIRUT: Egypt will pursue a relationship with Hezbollah as a “real political and military force” on the ground in Lebanon, the Egyptian ambassador to Lebanon has told The Daily Star, but warned the party to work solely for the interests of Lebanon.

6 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Dec 29, 2012 2:24:32pm

re: #5 What, me worry?

Oh yea, this is going to work out soooo nicely.

Translation: "We hate Israel, but we don't like Iran much either. Hezbollah can be anti-Israel, but we won't support it if it is a mouthpiece for Iran."


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