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1 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 2, 2013 12:56:15pm

Where did this train cross and how did they turn the cars around? I mean it's not like a truck that you can drive across the Ambassador Bridge and then across the Blue Water Bridge, back and forth, over and over. Trains are on a track and have to be turned around.

Did they uncouple the cars and then connect them to a truck?

2 ThomasLite  Wed, Jan 2, 2013 3:35:30pm

re: #1 Vicious Babushka

Where did this train cross and how did they turn the cars around? I mean it's not like a truck that you can drive across the Ambassador Bridge and then across the Blue Water Bridge, back and forth, over and over. Trains are on a track and have to be turned around.

Did they uncouple the cars and then connect them to a truck?

...Are you sure about that? All you'd have to do with a train here is uncouple the locomotive, use some parallel tracks (not hard, at a railyard) to get the loc to the other side of the train, attach it and drive back. Those things go both ways.
I believe the only reason you can't simply run the entire train, loc included, backwards has something to do with safety requirements, engineer being able to actually see out the front etc.

3 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 2, 2013 4:16:47pm

re: #2 ThomasLite

...Are you sure about that? All you'd have to do with a train here is uncouple the locomotive, use some parallel tracks (not hard, at a railyard) to get the loc to the other side of the train, attach it and drive back. Those things go both ways.
I believe the only reason you can't simply run the entire train, loc included, backwards has something to do with safety requirements, engineer being able to actually see out the front etc.

I was thinking of how many international rail crossings are there?

4 ThomasLite  Wed, Jan 2, 2013 4:24:13pm

re: #3 Vicious Babushka

I was thinking of how many international rail crossings are there?

...Ah, right. Well, from the article I wouldn't even be surprised if they took the same crossing 24 friggin' times...
Image: RailMapBig.jpg
makes me think it isn't many - but I think those are just the passenger transit routes. not sure how many cargo only lines there are nowadays? I know we have a few in Europe.

5 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jan 2, 2013 4:28:56pm

re: #4 ThomasLite

...Ah, right. Well, from the article I wouldn't even be surprised if they took the same crossing 24 friggin' times...
Image: RailMapBig.jpg
makes me think it isn't many - but I think those are just the passenger transit routes. not sure how many cargo only lines there are nowadays? I know we have a few in Europe.

That map is for Amtrak and Via, the passenger rail system. There is a separate system for freight rail. I don't think there are many rail border crossing points.

6 freetoken  Wed, Jan 2, 2013 8:11:57pm

The OilPrice article isn't that informative, and as expected it has been picked up by the usual suspects who want to demonize "green energy".

Anyway, the original story is here:

[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

[...]


The Bioversel fight against the CBSA’s search warrant of its Bloor Street offices in Toronto on May 30, 2012, was heard in court Wednesday in Quebec City. Court documents show European authorities had contacted the CBSA alleging Bioversel and another company mislabelled their merchandise and its origin. Officials are now investigating claims the companies were routing American-made biodiesel through Canada and falsifying its origin to avoid paying tens of millions of dollars in European anti-dumping duties.

The company denied the allegations in Quebec City, and is attempting to quash the warrants. Bioversel's lawyers accused CBSA officials of abusing their powers and executing the search on behalf of the European Anti-Fraud Office, saying the company has not broken any Canadian laws. The matter has been adjourned pending further deliberation.

The company has refused to explain why it paid CN to haul the same train shipment back and forth between Canada and the U.S.

Customs officials on both sides of the border declined to comment on the mystery, since the Toronto company is under investigation.

Natural Resources Canada, which runs a $1.5-billion biodiesel incentive program, was contacted numerous times by the CBC, and it has said it will look into the matter.

7 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 2, 2013 9:46:58pm

re: #5 Vicious Babushka

That map is for Amtrak and Via, the passenger rail system. There is a separate system for freight rail. I don't think there are many rail border crossing points.

Actually Alouette, many tracks carry both passenger and freight traffic. Most of the tracks used by Metra commuter rail in Chicago are owned by freight companies. And even the Rock Island line that Metra owns carries freight trains frequently (I've seen them passing through Metra stations with my own eyes).


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