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1 alinuxguru  Thu, Jan 3, 2013 5:35:38am

Is the GOP anti-muslim wing in retreat or are we witinessing internecine warfare between this wing of the GOP and the Grover Norquists' "Deficits are bad unless done by Reagan" brigade?

2 jogiff  Thu, Jan 3, 2013 5:45:54am

"Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), who in 2007 became the chamber’s first-ever Muslim member, says several Republican House members quietly approached him to apologize for the Abedin episode."

To me that sounds like the most heartening part of this story. Public apologies from politicians are always suspect. When the wrong-doer apologizes personally and privately then there's no political benefit and they probably sincerely feel bad.

3 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:38:50am

It was also heartening to read that Frank Gaffney was declared persona non grata at the Weyrich lunches and has been blacklisted by the American Conservative Union. With any luck, this latest outburst of insane bigotry is winding down, though the usual suspects will continue to peddle their BS.

4 MikeTheModerateDemocrat  Thu, Jan 3, 2013 6:43:34am

re: #2 jogiff

"Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), who in 2007 became the chamber’s first-ever Muslim member, says several Republican House members quietly approached him to apologize for the Abedin episode."

To me that sounds like the most heartening part of this story. Public apologies from politicians are always suspect. When the wrong-doer apologizes personally and privately then there's no political benefit and they probably sincerely feel bad.

Yes and no. It can also mean that they're afraid to come out publicly to denounce it, lest they offend some of the "base." Reminds me when a "compassionate conservative" / Dubya-style friend of mine attracted racist comments by his usual greek chorus on a facebook post. Rather than calling them out in the comments, he purposely chose to private message them, lest he show a crack in party unity.

5 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 3, 2013 7:16:14am
But after a November election that saw three of the party’s loudest voices on “creeping Shariah” defeated—and the GOP presidential nominee ignore the issue entirely—the anti-Islam movement within the Republican party may have peaked.

All of which is undeniable and incontrovertible proof of how entrenched and insidious is the demonic and destructive force of creeping shariah. //

6 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 3, 2013 8:09:30am

Thanks for posting this. While I'm happy to hear it, I'm with Ellison:

"I think it's a little too early to tell whether the tide has changed or not," says Ellison, the Minnesota Democrat. The GOP crusade against Islam has "certainly stalled. Will it [flare] up again or will it continue to stall or maybe decline, I don't know that."

Doing the right thing because it's politically expedient isn't exactly a laudable thing, and the choice can be all too quickly changed based on whichever direction the wind is blowing.

I don't buy Rep. Sue Myrick's supposed change of heart either. She spends a couple of years spewing venomous lies and then claims it was because of "bad advice"? WTF? She has no personal responsibility for any of it? She's not an adult with a brain? She wasn't able to discern that what she was doing was wrong? What a load of crap.

7 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 3, 2013 8:19:30am

re: #4 MikeTheModerateDemocrat

Yes and no. It can also mean that they're afraid to come out publicly to denounce it, lest they offend some of the "base." Reminds me when a "compassionate conservative" / Dubya-style friend of mine attracted racist comments by his usual greek chorus on a facebook post. Rather than calling them out in the comments, he purposely chose to private message them, lest he show a crack in party unity.

THIS. The politicians in question didn't bat an eye when it came to publicly condoning anti-Muslim bigotry, fear mongering with all the ridiculous anti-Sharia legislation, and in some cases flat out calling for American Muslims' constitutional rights to be abrogated.

They want to apologize in private? Fine, that's great, but I'm not believing anyone has had a sincere change of heart until they publicly proclaim that they were wrong and make a real effort to undo some of the damage they did.

8 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 3, 2013 8:38:49am

re: #7 CuriousLurker

THIS. The politicians in question didn't bat an eye when it came to publicly condoning anti-Muslim bigotry, fear mongering with all the ridiculous anti-Sharia legislation, and in some cases flat out calling for American Muslims' constitutional rights to be abrogated.

They want to apologize in private? Fine, that's great, but I'm not believing anyone has had a sincere change of heart until they publicly proclaim that they were wrong and make a real effort to undo some of the damage they did.

Agree. They basically engage in a witchhunt of American Muslims. I'm glad some of them apologized to Ellison but that's the least they can do.

9 stabby  Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:38:03am

Now party just has to suppress the granny starving, theocratic, debt-defaulting Tea Party crowd, the granny starving, debt-defaulting Aynn Randbots, the Birchers and other nazi black hating scum and the mad scientist, electrified wand up the vagina, legitimate-rape anti-birth control freaks and they'll have rejoined the human race.

Good luck Republicans, we know you can do it! //

10 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:57:26am

re: #9 stabby

Now party just has to suppress the granny starving, theocratic, debt-defaulting Tea Party crowd, the granny starving, debt-defaulting Aynn Randbots, the Birchers and other nazi black hating scum and the mad scientist, electrified wand up the vagina, legitimate-rape anti-birth control freaks and they'll have rejoined the human race.

Good luck Republicans, we know you can do it! //

If they suppress that many folks, your average Republican wouldn't even be able to get elected as municipal dog-catcher. You've just listed a good 75% of the GOP base.

11 moderatelyradicalliberal  Thu, Jan 3, 2013 1:03:08pm

re: #7 CuriousLurker

THIS. The politicians in question didn't bat an eye when it came to publicly condoning anti-Muslim bigotry, fear mongering with all the ridiculous anti-Sharia legislation, and in some cases flat out calling for American Muslims' constitutional rights to be abrogated.

They want to apologize in private? Fine, that's great, but I'm not believing anyone has had a sincere change of heart until they publicly proclaim that they were wrong and make a real effort to undo some of the damage they did.

What use of bigotry for votes has the GOP ever apologized for in public? They still owe an apology for the Southern Strategy.

12 CuriousLurker  Thu, Jan 3, 2013 1:06:17pm

re: #11 moderatelyradicalliberal

What use of bigotry for votes has the GOP ever apologized for in public? They still owe an apology for the Southern Strategy.

True that.

13 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 3, 2013 1:16:33pm

re: #11 moderatelyradicalliberal

What use of bigotry for votes has the GOP ever apologized for in public? They still owe an apology for the Southern Strategy.

I actually do remember Ken Mehlman sort of apologizing for that but then as you probably recall Limbaugh got pissed. It really is pathetic.We're going to hear years from now that the GOP candidates by and large didn't give two shits about gays marrying and having equal rights but they did it anyhow. To me frankly that's a greater sin than the sincere bigotry.


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