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1 Skip Intro  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:29:36am
The man had a valid permit to carry a concealed weapon, said Officer Dan Friesen of the Lenexa Police Department. But Kansas law does not allow people to carry concealed weapons if they are under the influence of alcohol. It is a Class A misdemeanor.

I wonder how this is supposed to work in the real world. You can carry concealed until you have a drink. Then what? You pull your concealed weapon out and shoot someone? Oh, right, that’s what happened here.

So really, what are you supposed to do with your weapon when you transition from doing a legal carry to an illegal one? Give it to the bartender? But by then you’re already drunk and you’re handling a weapon. Does this make any sense at all?

2 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:48:07am

re: #1 Skip Intro

What you are supposed to do is stop carrying before you drink. And btw get enough training to know better.

Of course CCW can and has saved lives. In one instance a bystander saved a cop. In another a man shot a robber that was pointing a gun at him and him 2 year old son.

3 Skip Intro  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:57:21am
What you are supposed to do is stop carrying before you drink.

Really? That’s what you’re supposed to do? What do you do with the gun once you decide to have a drink? Leave it in the car?

In the real world, how many people do you think would actually do that?

4 Tigger2  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 9:18:40am

re: #2 Political Atheist

What you are supposed to do is stop carrying before you drink. And btw get enough training to know better.

Of course CCW can and has saved lives. In one instance a bystander saved a cop. In another a man shot a robber that was pointing a gun at him and him 2 year old son.

But in the most part I don’t believe the Pros outweigh the Cons.

5 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 11:27:22am

re: #4 Tigger2

Are you saying CCW should not even exist? I would disagree there.

6 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 11:31:42am

re: #3 Skip Intro

Real world includes me right? Going drinking? Not gonna carry at all. Not even my locking blade knife. Went shooting then out for dinner and cocktails? The gun was already locked up so I could leave the range. Carried all day at work, then put the gun away, then went out.

7 Tigger2  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 12:13:47pm

re: #5 Political Atheist

Are you saying CCW should not even exist? I would disagree there.

I’m saying CCW at bars and schools.

8 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 12:52:19pm

If I ever visit I’ll take my steak and drinks at the bar.

9 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 4:47:35pm

re: #7 Tigger2

I’m saying CCW at bars and schools.

Agreed!

10 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 4:51:15pm

Maybe I missed a reply elsewhere, sorry if that’s the case. Randall you have said any parent with a gun at home is an irresponsible parent. Now that puts policemen and women in a serious bind. They often have a gun at home, as they accumulate serious enemies who get out of jail.

So do they have to be unarmed at home to be responsible?

11 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:09:59pm

Hey, Thanos! Remember the first LongBranch in the lower level of Seville Square? Now that was a great saloon.

This incident is what all of the critics of that nimrod city council were saying could happen.

12 Randall Gross  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 7:26:33pm

re: #11 prairiefire

I never made it to that one, I frequented the one on Metcalf and the one in Lenexa. I met Jimmy Doolittle’s son at the Metcalf Longbranch on ribeye Tuesday a few years back. It was an honor.

13 BishopX  Wed, Jan 9, 2013 8:41:36pm

re: #10 Political Atheist

Speaking statistically….everyone does.

14 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 10, 2013 8:31:17am

re: #10 Political Atheist

Maybe I missed a reply elsewhere, sorry if that’s the case. Randall you have said any parent with a gun at home is an irresponsible parent. Now that puts policemen and women in a serious bind. They often have a gun at home, as they accumulate serious enemies who get out of jail.

So do they have to be unarmed at home to be responsible?

I’d say keeping their guns in the house with their kids is another risk and sacrifice the police take to make the rest of us safer, even though it endangers their kids.


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