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1 Sionainn  Thu, Jan 17, 2013 8:38:30am

Weren’t there some samples retested that came back positive, but were ignored by everyone as being just a vendetta against Armstrong?

2 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:21:28am

alinuxguru

What is your issue with this article?

3 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:25:41am

re: #1 Sionainn

Those re tests may or may not be valid-
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
As part of its investigation, Usada said it recently obtained additional data from French officials who had retested Armstrong’s samples from the 1999 Tour. For procedural reasons, those samples cannot be used to sanction Armstrong. But the Usada report indicated that advances in EPO testing since then conclusively showed that he used the hormone. The report said the retesting produced “resoundingly positive values” from six samples.

4 alinuxguru  Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:32:17am

re: #2 Political Atheist

I am more worried about Lance’s long history of deceitfulness than some imagined power grab by the USADA. Why should I worry about Lance’s confession? I shouldn’t. He was too late with it.

5 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 17, 2013 9:43:31am

re: #4 alinuxguru

Got it. In part I agree, the long time deceit is the big thing. But the whole article gave me enough pause to put it up. Thanks for the explanation.

6 Destro  Thu, Jan 17, 2013 11:48:17am

I think the ones most hurt by what Lance did were the ones chanting “USA! USA! USA! France sucks!!!” when Lance “won”.

Lucky for me I never followed this sport and never cared one way or another - and refused to wear those yellow wrist thingees.

7 Charleston Chew  Thu, Jan 17, 2013 1:28:36pm

re: #6 Destro

I think the ones most hurt by what Lance did were the ones chanting “USA! USA! USA! France sucks!!!” when Lance “won”.

Lucky for me I never followed this sport and never cared one way or another - and refused to wear those yellow wrist thingees.

Such negative vibes, dude. Take it down a notch.

8 blueraven  Thu, Jan 17, 2013 5:36:39pm

re: #4 alinuxguru

I am more worried about Lance’s long history of deceitfulness than some imagined power grab by the USADA. Why should I worry about Lance’s confession? I shouldn’t. He was too late with it.

It’s even worse. It’s what he did to the people who could/would have exposed him over the years. Lawsuits, intimidation and in general thuggish behavior, trying to ruin lives of people for telling the truth.

9 subterraneanhomesickalien  Thu, Jan 17, 2013 10:49:36pm

I feel like a real asshole for defending this guy against friends and relatives when the conversation has happened to show up over the last several years.

I really thought that the mostly European led governing body of the sport didn’t like the fact that an American wasn’t only winning at their sport, but dominating it for the better part of a decade.

But it turns out that Lance was just a cheating sociopath.

Well I guess we can’t assume honesty or give the benefit of the doubt to our celebrity athletes anymore(maybe its naive to think we really ever could I guess).

10 Obdicut  Sat, Jan 19, 2013 4:26:34am

re: #9 subterraneanhomesickalien

Both things are true. The riders he was racing against, by and large, also cheated, and that cheating went ignored in most cases as they pursued Armstrong.


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